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VACCINATIONS In NY State

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  1. Salty

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    NY has passed a law which will take effect this coming public School year (Sep 2019)

    All students must be vaccinated against measles, among other shots.

    Religious exemptions will NOT be granted - under any circumstance.

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    That's great. No one should have their kids exposed to deadly diseases because of another parent's "beliefs."
    Vaccinations not only prevent disease but secondary disorders like autoimmunity and type 1 diabetes.

    There are mentally disabled parents that would feed their kids chicken nuggets for every meal. That does not mean they are bad parents, but they do need society to intervene for the sake of their children. Vaccinations should be mandatory for anyone sending children to public schools. No child should die or suffer from lifelong disabilities and illnesses because someone doesn't understand basic science or believes in paranoid conspiracy theories.
     
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    We let immigrants into the country without vaccinations. If you are a Democrat, you should not have to have vaccinations.
     
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    Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were immigrants.
     
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    Where do you get those ideas?
     
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    Really, it was all part of the Roman Empire, They weren't migrant nor immigrants, it's as if you moved from Colorado to Kansas.

    I don't agree with mandatory vaccinations, there should be at least a religious exemption, although we have them all here at my house. So I really don't care if some kid is unvaccinated, almost surely am immune. There is also herd immunity in play.
     
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    I won't attempt to argue with you even though you aren't entirely correct.

    But I will say this, they did not violate any "immigration" laws nor did they live illegally anywhere.
     
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    I too have to say for religious reasons, there should be an exemption. While I may not agree in anti-vax beliefs, I do believe in the freedom of religion. HOWEVER, with the choice to not vaccinate your kids, there should be some accountability on the parents part to keep their sick children out of school for the time that they're sick.

    IE. If a parent knowingly sends their kid with measles to school and little Jimmy with a compromised immune system gets it, I believe that would be a form of negligence on the parents' part.

    Sure, you can choose not to vaccinate your kid, but you better be making sure they're not going to school covered in chicken pox for the safety of the other students.
     
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    They didn't violate any laws because of open borders between the Kingdom of Egypt and Judea.
     
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    Did you read the bible? The part where they fled Judea, to avoid having their child killed, as many refugees are doing because of the cartels?
     
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    Vaccines do cause injury. That fact can not be disputed. N.Y. is shameful.
     
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    If vaccines work so well it shouldn't matter to you if my kids are vaccinated or not.
     
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    Thanks. You've just proven that comparing Jesus Christ and his family to illegal immigrants today is apples and oranges.
     
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    ...and they didn’t get vaccinated! :Laugh

    Vaccines do cause injuries (I’ve got a torn rotator cuff to prove it),
    ... but overall the benefits far outweigh the risks.​

    Rob
     
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    It's not the vaccinated children that are at risk. It's those who have a compromised immune system or those who can't afford to be vaccinated. I had a girl back in high school with this condition, and even a cold could be a big problem. So imagine her getting measles. It could kill her.

    Like I said before, it is well within your right not to vaccinate your own children. But if they show signs of having measles or another serious illness, keep them out of school for the sake of the other kids.
     
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    Not anymore - at least in New York State.
     
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    Not vaccinating causes exponentially more injuries. It kills kids. If one wishes to live in a society, they are not allowed to live in it as a biohazard. People get injured going into a restroom to use a toilet. That doesn't not give me the right to poop in public where I please. It's a health hazard to other people.
     
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    Only if a neglectful parent is sending their biohazard children to school with other children. Parents should not be allowed to harm the children of other people by ignorance or neglect.
     
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    How is it different? Refugees and the parents of Jesus fled to protect their family from harm. The only difference is that the US has unChristian laws. The only difference is the existence of anti-Christian policies.

    "“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’"

    I like how Christians can think they are free to vote for people that violates this. I have to do what Jesus says, but I can vote for someone who won't, even if I am voting for them BECAUSE of their anti-Christian beliefs. It's not wonder so many people think believers are nothing but hypocrites, because sometimes they blatantly and vocally violate their own faith.
     
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    Oh, you must be another socialist. The Holy Family were not illegal immigrants and they were not moving to a country with high welfare and they were only in Egypt for a short time and they had money. Your analogy sucks.
     
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