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Voter Fraud and Voter I.D.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 15, 2014.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    One of the biggest voter frauds may be the idea promoted by Attorney General Eric Holder and others that there is no voter fraud, that laws requiring voters to have a photo identification are just attempts to suppress black voting. Reporter John Fund has written three books on voter fraud and a recent survey by Old Dominion University indicates that there are more than a million registered voters who are not citizens, and who therefore are not legally entitled to vote.

    The most devastating account of voter fraud may be in the book "Injustice" by J. Christian Adams. He was a Justice Department attorney, who detailed with inside knowledge the voter frauds known to the Justice Department, and ignored by Attorney General Holder and Company.

    One of these frauds involved sending out absentee ballots to people who had never asked for them. Then a political operator would show up -- uninvited -- the day the ballots arrived and "help" the voter to fill them out. Sometimes the intruders simply took the ballots, filled them out and forged the signatures of the voters.

    These were illegal votes for Democrats, which may well be why Eric Holder sees no evil, hears no evil and speaks no evil.

    As for race-based "voter suppression," amid all the political hysteria, how many hard facts have you heard? Probably none that supports that claim. Widely available free photo identification cards mean that poverty is no barrier to voting.

    Since blacks and whites both have to show photo I.D. for everything from cashing checks to getting on a plane, why has requiring a photo I.D. for voting caused such shrill outcries?

    Unfortunately, this is part of the cynical politics of promoting as much racial polarization and paranoia as possible, in hopes of getting more black voters to turn out to vote for the Democrats.

    Nothing is too gross when promoting racial hysteria in an election year. Veteran Democrat Congressman Charlie Rangel from Harlem declared that Republicans "don't disagree -- they hate!" According to Rangel, "Some of them believe that slavery isn't over and that they won the Civil War!

    http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2014/11/04/voter-fraud-and-voter-id-n1913619
     
  2. InTheLight

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    Dems don't say there is no voter fraud, they say there are so few cases that it doesn't warrant new laws. Their insistence that it will suppress black voting is wrong and they are being demagogues.

    <Sigh> Here we go again. Photo ID would not prevent absentee ballot fraud.
     
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    True. But it's a good place to start.

    Absentee balloting is probably where most voter fraud occurs. Next would be registration fraud.

    All of these need to be addressed one at a time. but it all starts with positive identification.

    Fraud can't be stopped anywhere without it.
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    Actually many of them do. IN fact in the op Thomas Sowell suggests that Holder is the biggest one of them all saying it is a myth. There are others who claim it is a legitimate form of politics.



    The article in the op is titled and about both voter fraud and voter id. Sowell makes the case for both. For you to pick out just one of those is disingenuous.
     
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    Nice spin.
     
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    My wallet was stolen once, with my debit card inside.

    The thief tried to use it, but didn't know my PIN. So he tried to use it for a credit purchase.

    Boy, was I glad to hear that he was "disenfranchised" when a store clerk asked for his identification.
     
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    Did he sue the store for racial discrimination? ;)
     
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    I think he wanted "change"
     
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