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Was Adam of the devil? Thoughts.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by percho, Jun 1, 2023.

  1. percho

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    he who is doing the sin, of the devil he is, because from the beginning the devil doth sin; for this was the Son of God manifested, that he may break up the works of the devil; 1 John 3:8 YLT
    3:8 ὁ ποιῶν τὴν ἁμαρτίαν ἐκ τοῦ διαβόλου ἐστίν ὅτι ἀπ᾽ ἀρχῆς ὁ διάβολος ἁμαρτάνει εἰς τοῦτο ἐφανερώθη ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἵνα λύσῃ τὰ ἔργα τοῦ διαβόλου

    Rom 6:12 YLT because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin;
    5:12 Διὰ τοῦτο ὥσπερ δι᾽ ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου ἡ ἁμαρτία εἰς τὸν κόσμον εἰσῆλθεν καὶ διὰ τῆς ἁμαρτίας ὁ θάνατος καὶ οὕτως εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους ὁ θάνατος διῆλθεν ἐφ᾽ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον·
     
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    Define what you mean by the phrase, “of the devil”.

    Rob
     
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    Genesis tells us that GOD created man in his own image...I sincerely doubt he was "of the devil." He fell into the devil's trap...lying, deflecting from accepting his responsibility, etc. Sin is of the devil. God said his creation "was good," at least until the fall.
     
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    he who is doing the sin, of the devil he is, because from the beginning the devil doth sin; for this was the Son of God manifested, [like unto Adam, man] that he may break up the works of the devil; 1 John 3:8 YLT
    Romans 5:12-14 YLT because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin; for till law sin was in the world: and sin is not reckoned when there is not law; but the death did reign from Adam till Moses, even upon those not having sinned in the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a type of him [The Son of God] who is coming.
    Seeing, then, the children [of Adam, the man] have partaken of flesh and blood, he himself [The Son of God] also in like manner did take part of the same, that through death he might destroy him having the power of death -- that is, the devil -- Hebrews 2:14 YLT

    Did Adam fall into the trap of the devil or did the devil fall into the trap of God?
     
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    Why was Adam [man] made a little lower than the angels?
     
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    Hebrews 2:14 YLT Seeing, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, he himself also in like manner did take part of the same, that through death he might destroy him having the power of death -- that is, the devil --
    Rev 13:8 YLT And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
    1 Peter 1:18-20 YLT having known that, not with corruptible things -- silver or gold -- were ye redeemed from your foolish behaviour delivered by fathers, [Beginning with Adam, the first father] but with precious blood, [Death, for the soul [life] of the flesh is in the blood] as of a lamb unblemished and unspotted -- Christ's -- foreknown, indeed, before the foundation of the world, and manifested in the last times because of you,

    Even before the foundation of the world was, "death," going to be necessary in order to destroy the devil?
    Where was death going to come from?
     
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    Excellent question! IMO, God, knowing the iniquity that lied within Lucifer, provoked him to jealousy by inserting man into the garden. I believe Satan had not actually openly rebelled until he tempted Eve. And we all know the 'rest of the story' from there.

    It is consistently demonstrated within the types of the scriptures that the first(born) is always jealous of the second(born), and then the enmity between the two ensues, i.e., Cain & Abel, Ishmael & Issac, Esau & Jacob, Leah & Rachel, Saul & David, the Jews & the Gentiles, etc.. Lucifer was in Eden before God created Adam, he was first, then along came Adam, Adam was second. God KNEW what Satan would do just as He knew the Jews would be provoked to jealousy with the appearing of His Son and the incoming of the Gentiles to the kingdom.
     
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    No, Adam was more “of the Christ” because he gave up all for his bride.
     
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    Read your Bible. God cannot contradict himself. Son, you have to start from the beginning before you start adding things. Don't confuse the issue with your philosophy. You'll remain confused if you do.
     
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    Because, the angels weren't made in the image of God. C'mon, man...why all the silliness?
     
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