Featured Washington Death Penalty Suspended By Governor Jay Inslee

"There is too much at stake to accept an imperfect system."

Oh, did they use the stake there?

 

Yes or No: Is Christ outside the Old Testament?

Yes or No: Does the New Testament teach anything whatsoever about what, if anything, should be the civil penalty for murder?

 

Are you actually that foolish that you do not know that Christ is throughout the Bible, not limited to the New Testament? Or that Christ is the Living Word, and that includes the words that came before His emptying Himself to be take the form of a bond-servant, humbling Himself even to the point of death on the cross? Really??

 

Alright-- if see a beautiful woman walking down the street, and nothing would please me more than for her to come to me, throw her arms around me, and give me a long passionate kiss, should I do that to her, since it's what I would have her do to me?

With this cold I've got, just about anything liquid I have a thirst for.

 

Strange how you gotta turn everything personal. Some sort of insult, put down is always associated with your posts, but seldom facts. We know it wasn't court ordered because the man would have been present. TND and Prophet and myself all addressed this.

 

Prophet, you are right. Jesus doesn't appear to have stopped anything.

 

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So then the death penalty might not be "necessarily" banned.


If you're going to tell me God and Christ said different things, you need to do better than "not necessarily".

 

CTB -- I'd still like an answer to the questions I asked on page 1:

 

Don, here is a full admission that this is the stinking thinking of a man and not Scripture.

Don, as you well know, the expense of executions is connected with our crooked lawyers for the last half century or more filing endless appeals over nothing and clogging the courts with garbage. We have a murderer on death row here in Indiana since 1989. This is a contradiction of speedy and fair justice.

Don, the Democrats have no Scripture. They are not exactly students of hermeneutics, are they?

 

Okay, that just doesn't make a lick of sense. How do you justify that an execution is less expensive than life in prison?

Second, how do you justify that life in prison is a worse punishment than execution? If someone murdered your wife, and you are then asked to pay taxes each year to ensure that murderer has clothing, shelter, food, and entertainment, how is that punishment?

Your thinking is from the point of view of the murderer. Where is your regard for the victim? Or the victim's survivors? Or the rest of society that must live with the thought that a murderer is still among us?

I'm not talking about revenge, or even vengeance. I'm talking about what's best for society.

 

So you're going on your own understanding, and have given up the argument that Christ banned the death penalty ?

 

Why are you so focused on their pain, and not the victim's ?


Once a deserving person has been executed, the chance they will hurt someone else is removed.

 

Technically, you're only partially correct. It's not the executions that cost more than keeping the person in prison; it's the automatic appeals, separate prison arrangements for those on death row, etc., etc.

Prison's not supposed to be a nice place. It's supposed to be a place that people want to avoid, to the point of curbing their behavior so that they won't go there. And yet, our prisons are full.

What pain? What suffering? What regret?

So what you just said was that you prefer them to spend the rest of their lives in pain and suffering?

How is that the Christ-like point of view?

Duly noted.