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Were souls created before the body is formed?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by loDebar, Oct 15, 2018.

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    he seems to be rehasing Mormonism 101 theology in this situation!
     
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    Are our souls immoral, as in always were exisiting , as the Mormons teach?
     
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    It is so prophesied. ". . . make His soul an offering for sin, . . ." -- Isaiah 53:10. ". . . He hath poured out soul unto death . . . ." -- Isaiah 53:12.
     
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    The physical body of jesus died, but NOT His soul/spirit, as that is Deity, and can never die!
     
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    immortal? They were created before the physical world, that is all.
     
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    A specific soul for a specifi body?
     
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    That is right, but as our sin He was separated from the God head, His body died.
     
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    I think the soul is the real you that a body made for you, As was for Jesus, specific family, time and place
     
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    * The Greek for soul is psychen ψυχην.
    * The word of God teaches the soul is mortal (Ezekiel 18:4; James 5:20).
    * Death is a separating, not an annihilation.
    * Jesus taught that killing the body does not kill the soul (Matthew 10.28).
    * Jesus also taught that Hell (we understand as the second death Revelation 21:8) is where both body and soul perish (Matthew 10:28) meaning that both body and soul die.
    * Now an secondary importance to Jesus' death of His soul on the cross is He was conscious, just as the dead souls in the second death are conscious for all eternity, being forsaking by God (Psalm 22:1; Psalm 22:6; Mark 9:48).
    * Jesus finished the redemption on the cross before He physically died (John 19:28; John 19:30)!
     
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    he nver ceased being God, nor ever died as God!
     
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    The soul/body together are the real you! Created at the same thing by God!
     
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    It is a heresy known as Nestorianism that Jesus was two persons (souls).
     
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    you live on after your body dies and so we know it is separable
     
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    God plans to reunite them together at the resurrection, so will be forever tied together!
     
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    A number of things. First, God never dies. Second, the Son of God as God (John 1:3; Hebrews 1:3) did not cease being God. Thirdly, being fully God and actually dying on the cross (being forsaken by God the Father), God died on the cross. Fourtly, He died as a man after His soul was restored (John 19:30; Luke 23:46).
     
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    His soul was always God, correct, so was restored frtom what?
     
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    Jesus soul had to be restored before as a man He physically died, else He would not have been resurrected (Acts 2:27). That is how I understand this.
     
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    need a verse on this
     
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    fellowship with the Father, etc.
     
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    The soul, itself does not die but lives on, as ours does. The resurrection is proof He did as He said, and was God
     
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