Featured What about cain ?

Honesty is a real difficult matter for you. We have been discussing Genesis 5 and the geneology and you are trying to palm off the absurd notion that the only saved people on planet earth for the first 1600 years was only one woman "Eve" and only the firstborn of every man, not any of their other children, not any of their wives, not any of their other sibblings.

If anyone is so gullible to believe that absurd interpretation than they will believe anything at all no matter how silly and stupid it is.

Genesis 5 simply is a list of the firstborn in the lineage of David through whom the Messiah would come as Luke 3 demonstrates - that is it, that is all. It says nothing positive or negative about their personal salvation as individuals or their wife and other children.

More absurd heretical nonsense simply because you are incapable of rightly dividing the word of truth.

1. Romans 1:18-3:23; Rom. 5:12-19 declares there is no such thing called a "man" in this world that did not originate in Adam with Adam (except Christ) and was not condemned by one man's sin - Adam's sin.

2. 1 John 3:8 proves that all sinners are "of Satan" regardless if they are elect or non-elect - born with his nature as "children of disobedience" as you could place Satan's name in the place of "disobedience" because he is the Father of disobedience.

3. No one was literally justified, saved, glorified, called, regenerated, etc. before the world began except in the purpose of God which had to be fulfilled in time and space - Isa. 46:11

4. The "seed" of Christ are those BORN FROM ABOVE by the Spirit of God who were formly children of wrath/disobedience whose Father was Satan and they have been translated out of the kingdom of darkness, the kingdom of Satan and have been translated into the kingdom of His dear Son.

You and the Mormons have a nice fairy tale spun by the same source - demons - 1 Tim. 4:1

 

Readers, look at this rediculous intepretation of Genesis 5 and Adam's geneology by SBM.

SBM Argues that Cain cannot be found in this geneology because he was not created "in Adam" and thus his source of sin and death cannot be traced to Adam's sin and death but rather to Satan Himself and is a whole different kind of humanity that Satan created.

Here are the problems with his interpretation of that geneology in Genesis 5 as only the elect of God.

1. No other woman but Eve mentioned in this geneology and so no elect sisters, wives or daughters for 1600 years.

2. Only ONE son is mentioned birthed to all the men who are mentioned, thus none of their daughters or other sons ever a child of God.

3. They had other children even as it is explicitly stated that Adam and Eve had other "sons and daughters" after Seth was born.

CONCLUSION: Were all their wives, daughters and sisters and other sons born in the geneology of Cain?????????????? Think about this! It is such an absurd interpetation that it defies imagination that any rational person could even entertain it without histerical laughter.

If you haven't got it, it would mean Seth's wife had to be born in line of Cain because she is not mentioned in Adam's line just as Cain is not mentioned in Adam's line. It would mean all the other children of Adam and these firstborn men had to be somehow fathered by both the named man and someone from the line of Cain because they are not mentioned by name! Do you get this absolute nonsense????????

This geneology only lists the FIRSTBORN sons and lineage through whom Christ would eventually be traced through and therefore like all other geneologies that Christ would come through only first born sons are named. Only the geneologies given by Matthew and Luke contain women but no other sisters, sons or daughters.

 

SBG answer this question:

What happens when someone from Cain's lineage marrys someone from Adam's lineage - Which lineage does their children belong to? Is Adam's lineage corrupted when this happens or can the "seed" of the elect come through children born of both lineages???

 

According to your theory, that Cain was not created "in Adam" and that is why his name is missing from the Geneology of Adam, then EVERY WIFE and EVERY DAUGHTER and EVERY SISTER and EVERY SON and EVERY BROTHER not mentioned by name in this geneology had to have been born through Cain's lineage BECAUSE NONE OF THEIR NAMES ARE MENTIONED just as Cain's name is not mentioned. Hence, this intermarriage occurred right at the beginning with the UNNAMED in the geneolyg of Adam not in Genesis 6.

Says who? What Scripture teaches that the spiritual "seed" of the Serpent can repoduce with the "seed" of Adam and produce NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS that are still the "seed" of Adam?

We are not talking about the "fallen nature" we are talking about the HUMAN NATURE created by God "in Adam" versus the DEMONIC NATURE created in Cain by Satan! This is your theory! How can HALF HUMAN NATURE and HALF DEMOIC NATURE reproduce the "seed" of Adam?

Can the "seed" of Adam come from any marriage within the geneology of Cain? Can two Cainites produce a child that is the "seed" of Adam or a human being "created in God's Image" created in "Adam"?

If not, then how about two HALF human half demons that marry can they produce a "seed" of Adam or the nature of Adam?

Moreover, after years of half and halfs marry and reproducing where can any human being found that is not by interbreeding 99% Cainite???

 

Well, I tried to give him an out; but he's confirmed that he's espousing the "2 seed" stuff.

Further, he goes on to identify anyone that disagrees with him as "not having the spiritual capacity to receive this."

Someone tell me whether this gets classified as "hypocrisy" or not, and whether it should be allowed to continue on this message board.

 

He doesn't care whether or not anyone believes what he says or not. He simply uses the board to post his nonsense. He thinks that He is God's messenger and we are all going to held accountable by God for rejecting his messages.

 

In other words, God created some human beings just so He can throw them in the lake of fire.

 

And yet, God created/creates all things, while the devil is not given credit for creating anything, only destroying; so God must be the author of the creation of all those that are in the devil, and therefore created some humans to be saved, and oh-so-many more to be destroyed at the judgment. That is the only logical conclusion of this train of thought.

 

Have you ever heard of one of the early Pentecostal faith healers, William Branham, who went on to establish his own cult "The Branhamites." You have a lot in common with him.

 

FYI / FWIW, it is consistent throughout the scriptures that it's actually the second born that obtains the favor of God, not the firstborn, i.e., Cain/Abel, Shem/Japheth, Ishmael/Isaac, Essau/Jacob, Mannassah/Ephraim, First/Second Wilderness Generations, Saul/David, First Covenant/Second Covenant, First Man Adam/Second Adam (and doubtless many others):

It was not Cain's sacrifice that God had respect for, but it was Abel's; 'Cain was of the evil one, and slew his brother....Because his works were evil, and his brother`s righteous.' [1 Jn 3:12]

Shem was the elder brother of Japheth, but, 'God enlarge Japheth, And let him dwell in the tents of Shem...' [Gen 10:21 ASV & 9:27]

It was Ishmael, the firstborn, that was born after the flesh, and he persecuted Isaac, the second born, that was born after the Spirit. Isaac was the child of promise; Ishmael was cast out. [Gal 4:29]

It was said of Esau and Jacob, 'The elder shall serve the younger. Even as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.' [Ro 9:12,13]

It was not Leah his first wife that Jacob loved, but it was Rachel his second wife. [Gen 29:30,31]

It was Ephraim the younger that Jacob blessed over his older brother Mannassah and in spite of Joseph's objections. [Gen 48:13-20]

It was not the first generation of the exodus that entered into the rest of the promised land, it was the second generation; 'But your little ones, that ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have rejected.' [Nu 14:31]

It was not Saul the first king of Israel that would do all of God's will, but it was the second king David that was a man after His heart; '...Saul the son of Kish...when he had removed him, he raised up David to be their king; to whom also he bare witness and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My heart, who shall do all My will.' [Acts 13:21,22]

It was not the first covenant of the law ( I desire mercy, and not sacrifice) that God had pleasure in, but it was the second covenant of grace; '....a better covenant, which hath been enacted upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then would no place have been sought for a second.' [Heb 8:6,7]

Consider 'the first man Adam' vs. 'the last Adam, ' ... that is not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; then that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is of heaven.' [1 Cor 15:45-47][/

 

ALL humans that were to come after adam/Eve were In Adam, save for christ, who was born of a virgin!

Why do you keep deny the scriptures?

 

Pure hogwash!

 

It is evident from your writings and the tone of them that you take pleasure in the death and destruction of the wicked which is something that God does not. Better check what kind of spirit is motivating your writing.

Your theory about Cain and the line of Cain not being created "in Adam" by God has been proven to be absurdly rediculous as even you have had to admit that the intermarriage between these supposedly two different species, one created by God and one created by Satan is so thoroughly interbred even from the start in Genesis 5 as there are no brothers, sons, daughters, wives included in this geneology but only FIRST BORN sons and so according to your silly and unbiblical interpretation all the unnamed brothers, sons, daughters, sisters and wives from the very beginning came from the line of Cain, thus intermarriage and interbreeding thoroughly performed right from the beginning! What utter unbiblical nonsense.