What About NKJV?

Put me down as a fundamentalist, as well.

Ed

 

Double!!

Ed

 

You noticed?? Amazing, a blinding flash of the obvious!

Does this street run both ways, by your abode? Just wonderin'!

Try this - Ask Him. Give it 30 days. Shut out the opinions and distractions of the world (TV, movies, music, computers) read the New King James Version Bible daily for 30 days and pray on it and if there is no change in your life then perhaps it has no power in your life. However, if something else happens, be prepared, you may wind up becoming a fundamentalist

or this, in the alternative,

Ask Him. Give it 30 days. Shut out the opinions and distractions of the world (TV, movies, music, computers) read the Holman Christian Standard Bible daily for 30 days and pray on it and if there is no change in your life then perhaps it has no power in your life. However, if something else happens, be prepared, you may wind up becoming a fundamentalist

I could insert other versions such as the ESV, Darby, NASB, or many others, especially in languages other than English, in the sentence, but I hope you get my point. If not, all I can 'say' or 'do' is

Ed

 

Bible reading and study can bring about great changes in our lives. I don't think it matters what version we use, as long as we study the word God has graciously preserved fpr us in several different English translations.

:jesus: :godisgood:

 

Here's an idea.

How about we all read the Bible version that God leads us to read and leave each other alone. Picking those splinters out of our brother's eye gets really boring and unfulfilling.

 

I see your and raise you a :thumbs: and a :applause:.

 

Why do you prefer a book that you say contains lies?

 

You are calling the translators of the KJV dishonest? Same question for you as for Ed. For what cause would you pick up a book translated by dishonest people and then say you like it?

 

It was just a suggestion and it bore fruit for me, if it wasn't so important I'd be sorry I suggested it.

 

Rufus1611,

Do you believe that Christians who use versions other than the KJV will miss out on the Millennial Reign?

 

I'd say a lie is better than a heresy (a blaspheming
of God lie).

Because I've not bought into the inane heresy
that if somebody can find one error in a Bible it
invalidates the whole Bible. In God's nature He
built a way to store pictures called a Hologram.
The picture is stored in a special type of glass
sheet. Even if 90% of the sheet of glass is missing,
the picture is still there. The Bible is likewise
ENGINEERED BY GOD to be preserved fault tolerant. Even
though man may loose part of the Bible or
change part of the Bible or burn the Bible or
cling to a Bible nobody can read -- God's Written
Word is Eternal!

Where I see the develoment going (present company
excepted) by the anti-nKJV folk is to the NEW AGE
idea that every letter of the KJV1769 Cambridge Edition
is in it's exact place for the English so that
we can divine our future.
This development is in direct contradiction to God's
Law:

Deu 18:10-12 (KJV1611 Edition):
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his sonne,
or his daughter to passe thorow the fire,
or that vseth diuination,
or an obseruer of times,
or an inchanter,or a witch,
11 Or a charmer,
or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wyzard,
or a Necromancer.
12 For all that do these things, are an abomination vnto the Lord:
and because of these abominations,
the Lord thy God doth driue them out from before thee.

Sorry, but divination from the Holy Bible is an abomination before
the Lord - to due such is like offering your child as
a burt offering. Sorry, but 'an observer of times' - who who
does not depend upon God to make things end alright but
must know ahead of time what is going to happen to them:
this is an abomination before the Lord.
Such is the nature of the equidistant spacing lie and the
God-only-has-one-perfect- letter-order abomination.
God is fully capable of preserving His Holy Written Word
right through the wiles of the Devil and men's perfidy.


Meanwhile, (and on topic):
the nKJV is part of the antidote to the New Age Movement:
a number of faithful translations from the Majority Text
into the English Langage. BTW: Latin sings better than
English

 

Honesty?

No, I am saying that the removal of any notes that they may have made that shows that there were better ways to translate a word or passage is dishonest. If the original translators did it then they were dishonest, if later "editors" of the translation did it, then they were dishonest. Show me who did it and I will call them dishonest.

Just because I think there may have been some dishonesty perputrated in the area of the notes does not mean that the 200+ years of KJV history has been a lie. It means that someone with an agenda was dishonest, however the translation is reliable. It is just outdated and in need of further revision as it has received various times in its history. It is time to update a language that is being hidden from today's world and replace it with the current language spoken today. I want to know what God said plainly and not have to wade through a poetical language as one person put it to me. God spoke plainly and now it is time to translate His Word plainly in a post-modern language.

 

Rufus1611

I truly would like an answer to my question, since I answered yours in a previous thread. Thanks.

 

Yeah, I'd liketa see Mexdeaf's Q answered also.

The history of the Bible in English shows that it was kept in the style current for the time from its inception. The longest gap has been during the KJV period, but now that God is catching up His word with the changes He's caused/allowed in the language itself, certain people are trying to resist Him, with others milking a cash cow by writing boox geared to the itching ears of those resistors.

I PRAISE GOD every day for allowing me to be able to read His word in both old and modern versions, as it has greatly broadened my knowledge of what His word REALLY says, as I see the Holy Spirit's use of both old and modern versions.

The NKJV is one of the best of the newer versions. I completely dismiss the hooey written about it by such unlearned people as Dr. Lawrence Vance, Terry Watkins, & Gail Riplinger.

 

I do not even know that I will make it with a KJV for the race is still being run. However, allow me to demonstrate a key passage relative to inheriting the kingdom of God.

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."- 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV)​

KJV list of people that will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

1. fornicators
2. idolaters
3. adulterers
4. effeminate
5. abusers of themselves with mankind
6. thieves
7. covetous
8. drunkards
9. revilers
10. extortioners

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"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)​

NKJV list of people that will not inherit the Kingdom of God:

1. fornicators
2. idolaters
3. adulterers
4. homosexuals
5. sodomites
6. thieves
7. covetous
8. drunkards
9. revilers
10. extortioners

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What is different about these two lists?

The NKJV uses two synonyms "homosexuals" and "sodomites" whereas, the KJV says "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind". "Abusers of themselves with mankind" is typically accepted to be synonymous with homosexuality or sodomy. However, being "effeminate" is not synonymous with being homosexual. While many homosexuals are effeminate there are homosexuals that are not effeminate. While most heterosexuals are not effeminate there are heterosexuals that are. A KJV reader would likely find it to be important not to be a girly man, whereas a NKJV reader might think he's covered as long as he's not homosexual. Regardless, of which you believe is correct, these different books say different things.

EFFEM'INATE, a. [L. effoeminatus, from effoeminor, to grow or make womanish, from foemina, a woman. See Woman.]
1. Having the qualities of the female sex; soft or delicate to an unmanly degree; tender; womanish; voluptuous.
The king, by his voluptuous life and mean marriage, became effeminate, and less sensible of honor.
2. Womanish; weak; resembling the practice or qualities of the sex; as an effeminate peace; an effeminate life.
3. Womanlike, tender, in a sense not reproachful. (Source: Webster's 1828)​

 

Notice

This thread has just about outlived its purpose and has digressed to a KJVO/non-KJVO thread. It is at the tenth page and I am closing it down.

Feel free to open another thread on the NKJV, but be very careful, if it turns into a KJVO/non-KJVO fuss we will shut it down, too.

Thank you,
Phillip