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What do you think of Rep. Joe Wilson's decision to shout out 'You lie!' during speech

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Xavier Montoya Zapata, Sep 9, 2009.

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  1. It was completely inappropriate. There's never an excuse for bad manners.

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  2. It revealed the frustration of House Republicans who feel powerless.

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  3. He was completely within his rights.

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  1. Winman

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    Distraction, distraction, distraction.

    Look, the Democrats are going to call Joe Wilson a villian, the Republicans are going to call him a hero. What do you expect?

    You can bet Obama and the Democrats are going to use this outburst as a distraction, to take people's minds off the real subject at hand. I don't get much time to watch the news, but I can guess all the pundits are going to be talking about this outburst now and not the details of Obama's health plan. And that will good for Obama, because so far, the more people have learned the details of his plan, the less they have liked it.
     
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    That's not what's happenning. The Democrats are calling him rude, and the Republicans are calling him rude. The Dems are making a bigger issue of it than it was, but that's to be expected from the opposing party, regardless of whom the opposing party is.
     
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    Of course. The Republicans HAVE to speak against this outburst. If they don't then they all become villians and that is all you will hear about on the news for the next week. Privately they are probably all giving each other high fives, but they are smart enough to know how the media (especially the very liberal media) will use this to distract the public and make all the Republicans look like the bad guys.

    It's politics, it's all a big game, a chess match.
     
  4. Tom Bryant

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    Can you say "Quick! About Face!" :laugh:

    I thought he was rude.
     
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    I did not watch Obama, never do. However, in the excerpts I saw later he portrayed everyone who opposed the nationalization of health care liars and villains who would be called out. Perhaps we will see an old fashioned duel.

    He was a guest of the Congress and should have been treated as a guest. However, he should have acted like a guest. Would you allow a guest in your house to call you a liar and villain?
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    If your going to stand there and call everyone liars (when i fact it isn't true) then expect it. There is no issue here.
     
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    OR, the biblical command IS to speak with love and grace. If one cannot obey the command when they speak, then they should not speak. The best illustration of a man confronting a king over his sin is Nathan the prophet saying to David "Thou art the man!" I would think that these words were spoken more in sorrow than in anger. Also, note that Nathan led David to the conclusion so that, at the end, when the words were spoken, David agreed that he was in sin and he repented of it. Ultimately, that is the reason we speak with grace and love, because, just as it is the kindness of God that leads us to repentence, it is words truly spoken in the right spirit that God can use to turn a person from their sin. The Reps words, because of their tone, are being used to harden Obama in his error. A case of a wrong method bringing about an undesirable result.
     
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    Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
     
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    The means by which he did it was inappropriate (what I voted)

    The message, though, was to the point, spot on and quite appropriate.
     
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    Suppose Mr. Wilson had called for a press conference following the speech. 1) would anybody have shown up? 2) if they did would it have made even local news (in his district) let alone national news.

    I think Mr. Wilson got his point across.

    Is anyone thinking President Wilson 2012?

    No way he would ever get elected - it seems he tells the truth.
     
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    I liked it. Of course I am known for speaking inappropriately myself.

    Several years ago our company had a big meeting right before Christmas and the head of Engineering was speaking. At our company management is not allowed to say Merry Christmas because we had few a Muslims and Hindus who worked there. At the end of our manager's speech he nearly slipped and said, "Merry Chris..." but caught himself. Our HR lady gave him a quick, sharp glare for this mistake.

    I shouted out, "Bob almost said MERRY CHRISTMAS!"

    Man, you should have seen the look the HR lady gave me. If looks could kill, I wouldn't be here right now. :tongue3:

    But you know what? Fellow employees came up to me for weeks after that saying they thought my outburst was great.
     
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    Wilson is claiming it was a spontaneous outburst. While not an excuse, it makes me wonder if he has Tourette's Syndrome.
     
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    Really? That is what you wonder? :confused:
     
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    Let's see the extreme adulation of a standing ovation for a liar and socialist for entering a room is the right of all and the extreme verbal outburst is also the right of all, both were probably out of line but then adulation is expected the other not.

    Personally Odrama was probably not telling a lie, he probably plans on getting all the illegals into citizenship tracks before the health care plan really gets going. :tonofbricks:
     
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    Actually, yes. What is your point?
     
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    What disease do you have, to explain your hateful outbursts ?

    I further wonder, if the shoe was on the other foot, how you'd be screaming bigotry if someone else had said this.
     
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    More of your ignorance. What is your point?

    And I would not want ANY congressperson to interrupt and heckle ANY president.

    Again, just another of your personal attacks due to your unnatural attraction to me, I guess.

    It is a legitimate question. Tourette's causes people to blurt out inappropriate things at the most inopportune time.

    PS...another nice derail. Every thread is NOT about me curtis, despite your unprovoked stalking and attacking.
     
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    I still think he was rude. I don't think the Congressman was wrong in his position just his judgment and his timing.
     
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