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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Reformed, Apr 11, 2019.

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  1. MB

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    I'm not impressed by the critical text. Jesus Christ has a name and it isn't ONE. The majority of text disagrees with it. Christ did not die for believers only but for the sins of the whole world.
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    Yes, we are too quick to play the "man-made doctrine" card. This is today's version of accusing people of heresy. I definitely agree that we should discuss / debate those with a different view. One or both parties may come to a new understanding of the issue. I used to meet with several Catholic friends about once a month for the purpose of discussing our doctrines. Being at peace with a brother may depend a lot on how strongly you feel about the issue in question, and how well do you know or respect the party with whom you disagree.
     
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    When you base your doctrine on Aristotle, Plato, and Plotinus.
     
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    TR= τὸν μονογενῆ
    MT= τὸν μονογενῆ
    CT= τὸν μονογενῆ

    They all say the same thing.

    μονογενής -BDAG

    1 pert. to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship, one and only, only

    2 pert. to being the only one of its kind or class, unique (in kind)

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    Mic drop.

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    Neither says Christ died only for the believers. If this were so then only the believers at the time could be saved.
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    The topic is "what is a man-made doctrine?". Out of respect for the OP and everyone participating, please stop trying to hijack this post into a Calvinism vs Arminianism debate.
     
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    In that context, it was all the additions to The Law that the Pharisees and Saducees had added.
     
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    I'm not trying to hijack this thread. This thread is about what man made doctrine is. I believe that parts of Calvinism that are not scriptural are the doctrine of men. Reformed mentioned other doctrines which are man made I merely mentioned that Calvinism is also a man made doctrine. All of the tulip is man made. None of it is supported by scripture when the scripture used to do so does not say what they claim with out there own additions to it.
    Such as the meaning of words Like "world" and "all" They complain that "World" when used alone does not mean everyone or that all doesn't mean everyone. Although they haven't yet denied that everyone means everyone such as in;
    Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
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    If that were the case, you would simply have suggested it as an example. It seems that you are taking the notion that since you believe Calvinism is man-made doctrine you have free reign to make this the subject. I'm not here to see what anyone thinks about Calvinism vs Arminianism. I'm here to see what others think about what constitutes man-made doctrines.

    If you focus on the C vs A debate, what's to prevent anyone else from using this thread as a forum to tell everyone else why their view of the End Times is right and other views are man-made doctrines? What's to stop the next guy from going on about why speaking in tongues is still valid for today and any other view is a man-made doctrine? We could go on and on about "hot topics" and lose the initial topic of what a man-made teaching actually is.
     
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    Here brethren go again taking scripture out context... If you read a little further you would discover who every man is... Many sons is not every man... If the scripture read all sons I would agree with you but it does not... Also the sons that are mentioned in the every man are brethren... Christ died for the sheep and his sheep alone!... Show me one scripture where Christ died for a goat?... Brother Glen:)

    Hebrew 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

    2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

    2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
     
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    Christ died for sinners and all sinners are goats until they are saved and become sheep.
    Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    You say that Christ died for His sheep alone but none of the scripture you have posted say that. The writer does not say that. So you saying it not supported from scripture means it is the doctrine of men
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    I requested to have this thread closed. It has been effectively hijacked by someone with an axe to grind.

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