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What was wrong with Lot?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by church mouse guy, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member

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    Radio preacher Lester Roloff said that Lot was a lot of trouble. Clearly, he wasn't much account. Maybe water seeks its own level but Lot lived in a city where there were not ten good men. What was wrong with Lot? Greed, stupidity, laziness?
     
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    He lingered. Trying to remember the passage that points that out. J.C. Ryle has a great chapter on Lot in his book on holiness.
     
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    just-want-peace Well-Known Member

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    Just off the top of my head, I recall that when he & Abraham separated he, Lot, chose this area because it was "well watered", so I would say GREED was his downfall.
     
  4. Winman

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    Exactly correct. And not just greed, but ease of life as well. The land was green and well watered, so it would be easy to feed your flocks without travelling great distances.

    Lot also had another problem, he loved to drink. He had to flee Sodom with what he could carry, but he did not forget his wine. He got so drunk he did not realize he slept with both his daughters.

    That said, Lot was a believer and saved. The scriptures say he was "just" and "righteous".

    2 Pet 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
    7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
    8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; )

    Lot was wealthy, but he paid a big price for it, he vexed his soul daily living among wicked people. Perhaps this is why he drank to excess.
     
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    Alcott Well-Known Member

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    What was wrong with Lot?

    Nothing that wasn't wrong with Little.
     
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    his main problem was that he looked at events and things thru the eyes of a "natural man", while Abraham looked thru eyes of faith, just s Moses did, had eyes on the heavenly prize, not worldly here and now blessings!
     
  7. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member

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    Lester Roloff said that he did not understand how Lot could be so drunk that he did not know that he had committed incest with both his daughters. And if Lot is righteous, and I am not challenging that point, how is it that Moab and Ammon were cursed?
     
  8. Winman

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    That's not completely so, Lot must have had faith in God, as he is called both just and righteous. But he was a worldly believer.

    As far as Moab and Ammon being cursed, I was not aware of that, although I know Ammon would not allow Israel to pass through their lands during the Exodus. So, they brought about their own problems.
     
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    never said Lot was lost, but that he saw things thru natural means, whileAbraham belived in ways of God!
     
  10. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member

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    Well, I don't know but those people seem to be gone from the face of the earth:

    Zephaniah 2:8 (KJV) I have heard the reproach of Moab, and the revilings of the children of Ammon, whereby they have reproached my people, and magnified [themselves] against their border.
    9 Therefore [as] I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely Moab shall be as Sodom, and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah, [even] the breeding of nettles, and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation: the residue of my people shall spoil them, and the remnant of my people shall possess them.
    10 This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified [themselves] against the people of the LORD of hosts.
    11 The LORD [will be] terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth; and [men] shall worship him, every one from his place, [even] all the isles of the heathen.
     
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