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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by rlvaughn, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. rlvaughn

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    Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

    Job trivia. The given name Job is mentioned 3 times in the Old Testament outside the book of Job, and once in the New Testament. Uz, as a person's name, is mentioned 4 times in the Old Testament.

    Where does Job fit on the timeline of biblical history?
     
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    We know he lived after the law was established for he made the sacrifices for his family.
     
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    Not to disagree about the timing, but Cain and Abel also made sacrifices.
     
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    And Noah...
     
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    Not really. Adam most likely made sacrifices. He at the least participated in one. Cain and Abel, as already mentioned.
     
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    Wrong. Sacrifice as described in the book of Job took place only after the Exodus from Egypt.
     
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    Brother Curtis, most people I've read seem to think the type of sacrifice done by Job as head of household was pre-law sacrifice. What about this sacrifice seems to you to be part of the law?

    Also the fact that Job's daughters received an equal inheritance with the sons seems not according to the law (Job 42:15). Compare Numbers 27:8.

    Timeline seems to be post-flood, Job 22:16.
     
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    The scholarship I have read says that the book of Job is the oldest book in the Bible

    Hidden Treasures in the Book of Job: How the Oldest Book in the Bible Answers Today’s Scientific Questions

    Introduction | The Institute for Creation Research

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    Leviticus 16 tells us Aaron made sacrifice for his family. Definitely post-law. And yes, that would be post-flood.
     
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    And I appreciate the challenge. This is a great question.
     
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    Job was probably a contemporary of the Patriarchs. Sometime around the time of Abraham?
     
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    Continue tomorrow
     
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    There is no mention of the Law, no mentions of Levitical priests, no mention of a Tabernacle or Temple.
    I offer one possible clue.
    Job 32:2. 'Then the wrath of Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, was aroused against Job........'
    Genesis 22:21. '.........Huz his firstborn, Buz his brother.......'

    Given Abraham's great age when Isaac was born, Buz would probably have been a somewhat older cousin of Isaac.
     
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    Gen 5
    [1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
    [2] Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Gen 5
    [3] And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

    Gen 5
    [6] And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

    Gen 5
    [9] And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

    Gen 5
    [12] And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel:

    Gen 5
    [15] And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

    Gen 5
    [18] And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

    Gen 5
    [21] And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

    Gen 5
    [25] And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:

    Gen 5
    [28] And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
    [29] And he called his name Noah,

    Gen 10
    [1] Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth:

    Gen 10
    [22] The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.

    Gen 10
    [32] These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.


    Gen 11
    [9] Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

    Gen 11
    [10] ... Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:

    Gen 11
    [12] And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:

    Gen 11
    [14] And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:

    Gen11
    [16] And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:

    Gen 11
    [18] And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:

    Gen 11
    [20] And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:

    Gen 11
    [22] And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:


    Gen 11
    [24] And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:

    Gen 11
    [26] And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

    Gen 17
    [5] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham;

    Gen 25
    [19] And these are the generations of Isaac, Abraham's son: Abraham begat Isaac:

    Gen 25
    [20] And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife,

    Gen 25
    [26] And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

    Gen 35
    [10] And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.

    Gen 35
    [22] And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve:
    [23] The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun:

    Gen.46
    [13] And the sons of Issachar; Tola, and Phuvah, and Job, and Shimron.

    1Chr.7
    [1] Now the sons of Issachar were, Tola, and Puah, Jashub, and Shimron, four.


    Numbers 26

    [23] Of the sons of Issachar after their families: of Tola, the family of the Tolaites: of Pua, the family of the Punites:
    [24] Of Jashub, the family of the Jashubites: of Shimron, the family of the Shimronites.
    [25] These are the families of Issachar according to those that were numbered of them, threescore and four thousand and three hundred.

    Job 1
    [1] There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
    [2] And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.





     
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    You are going to have to prove that point with more than simply saying "wrong."
     
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    So far only three people will hazard a guess.

    There are good responses so thank you for those.
     
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    After the Law ~ Job lived ~ Agree

    IF we learn "after the fact", of what is commanded, IS a LAW, whether or not it was called a LAW at the time it was given...

    God first dictated a commandment to Adam. Which was a LAW of sorts, but not called a LAW.

    Gen.2
    [17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it:

    Ex 20 (after God establishes a Priesthood within mankind), thus follows the commandments, thereafter called LAWS.

    And we see the LAWS beginning to mimic what God said to Adam.... "thou shalt not".

    Exod.20
    1. [4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...
    2. [5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them....
    Etc...

    We also find .... as the commandment was specific to Adam...
    it was not ALSO.....the commandment (Law) specific to the Hebrews and their race (offspring) ie the Jews.

    Later ~ Most commandments specific to the Hebrews were not ALSO specific to the Gentiles (with exceptions that are found parallel in the OT AND NT. )
     
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    Sacrifice ~ Depends on it's "WHOLE" meaning.
    Sacrifice "things"? Animals, belongings, etc.
    Sacrifice "person"? Love God above ALL things, crucify ones body, etc.

    We find via history, (even ancient history) men tend to want to keep "possessions" (for many reasons) but seem more willing to put Love of God above all things, and are willing to sacrifice their "life, soul, spirit" unto God.
     
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    There is no point in guessing. T
    You are adding 2+2 and getting 5. What exactly does Aaron making sacrifices for his family have to do with anything? To be useful to this topic, you would need a verse that said "Aaron made no sacrifices for his family because the law was yet to be given." We have no verse telling us that.
     
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    Actually I don't. I'm not going to explain myself.

    This is a good topic, even if there are those who will limit their responses to what other folks say and offer no input of their own.
     
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