Where did you go to college?

Was working on my B.A. in Biblical Studies/Greek minor at Faith Baptist Bible College, Ankeny, IA....went deaf. I have 3 semesters under my belt at this point, getting married soon, don't have the money to go back. But I can afford to get my B.S. in Biblical Studies from Moody BI, corresponence.

The plan is to live in Ankeny and be able to start Seminary at Faith in 4 years or so.

 

B.S. (Mining Engineering) - University of Wisconsin-Madison
M.C.I.S (computer information systems)-University of Denver - Denver, CO

 

BA in creative writing from Bob Jones University, May 2004.

 

Assoc. Degree - C.C.A.F. (Comm. College of the Air Force) - Medical Sciences

Advanced Diploma of Theology - Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

Bachelor of Theology - Slidell Baptist Seminary

Th.M. - Slidell Baptist Seminary

 

B.A. Sociology (University of Saskatchewan)
M.A. Counseling (48 credit hours) (Webster U)
D.Min Counseling (60 Credit hours) American Christian College and Seminary

Nord

 

Howard Payne University (a good ol' Baptist school) - BA in Christian Studies: Theology & Biblical Langauges

Currently I'm at the "heretical non-Baptist" Dallas Theological Seminary working on my ThM in Academic Old Testament.

You know for a school that many Baptist just can't stand - I sure do have a lot of Baptist for professors and numerous Baptist sitting beside me in classes!

I am looking for a somewhere to do a possible PhD and figure I might go to a Baptist seminary to "redeem" myself in the eyes of many Baptist after being a "traitor" for my Masters. But, then again, I love going against the flow!

 

Great Plains Baptist College, B.R.E (Bible/Music)

Great Plains Baptist Divinity School, M.S.(Multi-Disciplinary Education)

 

Nord, I have a question about the DMin in Christian counseling program ACCS had offered: From the catalog I got the impression that the program was more in line with traditional Christian counseling than a Nouethetic approach.(which IMO was a real positive). Would you say that was true? It seemed more in line with what SBTS, Southern Christian and Gordon-Conwell is offering- -but a bit more extensive (60 credits rather than 36 or 48). The program looked good from the catalog description. Just curious.

 

Hey PatsFan,

I enjoyed the program and found it more interesting and in many ways practical than the secular Masters I did in counseling.

It incorporated traditional counseling courses that one would take anywhere at a secular institution and are recognized as the backbone of a good program but thoroughly grounded in scripture. What I liked was that it was not merely a prooftexting exercise but really seeing things from the perspective of solid scriptural principles and taking what gift God has given us in psychological insight and understanding (eg chemical/biological understanding of depression).

It seemed a solid faith based counseling.

Nord

 

I read somewhere, here or on degreeinfo.com that ACCS hoped to reorganize in a new location (you may have written the post?). Hopefully that will happen, since they had a great deal to offer their students.

 

Trinity Baptist College in Jacksonville, Florida (class of 1986) B.A. Church Ministries

Working on M.A. through Luther Rice Seminary

 

Good luck with LRS. I have a lot of respect for the school.

Nord

 

BA Sociology, Indiana Univ. of PA, Indiana, PA 1976
MBA, Golden Gate University, San Francisco, CA, 1984
MA, Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary, Lynchburg, VA, 2001
MDiv, Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary, Lynchburg, VA, 2003

 

I don't think I have replied to this yet.

My education is as follows:

BA: Sociology - UNC at Pembroke
MA/Religion (fall 05) - Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary.

Martin.

 

I want to ask you, why you worked fortwo MDiv.
And what dissertation you have for a PhD in church history (my passion is in church history).

 

BA,computer science - University of Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Diploma in Bible - Eastern European Bible College, Romania
MA, Practical Theology (student) - TCM Institute, Vienna, Austria
BD,(student) - University of Walles (Spurgeon's College)

 

I want to ask you, why you worked fortwo MDiv.
And what dissertation you have for a PhD in church history (my passion is in church history). </font>[/QUOTE]My apologies for not answering this earlier, but I rarely check out this thread.

I answered part of this in another thread. I'll recite that part here. When I did the LRS MDiv, it was an 88-hour degree. LRS accepted a large number of hours which I did at Hyles-Anderson (MEd), so basically I had an MDiv that was heavy on the practical and light on the academic. For instance, my LRS MDiv did not have any biblical languages, church history, and only minimum work in theology.

I knew that I wanted to learn more, so I did the DMin at LRS and was able to substitute some of the coursework with more academic selections. For instance, I took "The Theology of Election" with Dr. Maurice Robinson, then at LRS and now at SEBTS, instead of a more practical DMin course. My major writing project, instead of the typically practical something-I-did-in-my-church report, was an exposition of the book of Titus---not a collection of sermons, mind you, but a fairly intensive examination of the text.

After I received the DMin in 1992, I was still plagued by an awareness of being ill-equipped to be the kind of pastor which I believed God would have me be. Consequently, I began taking MDiv extension courses in Georgia from Southeastern and New Orleans. The work with SEBTS, in particular, was very rewarding. After some 33 hours of this, I realized that only completing the MDiv and doing a PhD would I be satisfied with my formal training. Consequently, I resigned from my 8-year pastorate in south Georgia and moved my family (wife, three daughters---two were teenagers, and teacup poodle) to Kentucky to complete the MDiv and pursue the PhD, graduating in 1998 and 2003, respectively.

I don't want to imply anything negatively about LRS. I am convinced that LRS is much stronger academically today than when I did the MDiv, graduating in 1985, and do not hesitate to recommend it.

The title of my PhD dissertation is From Biblical Fidelity to Organizational Efficiency: The Gospel Ministry from English Separatism of the Late Sixteenth Century to the Southern Baptist Convention of the Early Twentieth Century. My supervisor was Dr. Tom Nettles.

The following is the abstract of the dissertation:

"This dissertation provides a historical and theological examination of Baptist views of the gospel ministry from English Separatists of the late sixteenth century to the Southern Baptist Convention of the mid-1920s. Chapter 1 provides the thesis of the dissertation, background material to its being written, and the methodology by which its conclusions are reached.

"Chapters 2 through 4 provide overviews for the ministry among English Separatists, British Baptists of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, and American Baptists of the mid-seventeenth through the mid-nineteenth centuries, respectively. Each chapter focuses upon primary writings revealing each group’s understanding of such issues as the office of the minister, the divine call to the ministry, ordination, preparation, the call by a congregation to a local church, and mutual responsibilities of ministers and church members.

"Chapters 5 through 7 examine the ministry among Southern Baptists from about 1865 to 1925. While the fifth chapter follows the same pattern as the previous three, Chapter 6 examines the beginning of a shift in the focus of the work of the minister from 1865 to 1900 with the introduction of organizational efficiency. Chapter 7 demonstrates that this shift became denominationally accepted during the early twentieth century.

"This work maintains that the heritage of Southern Baptists expressed consistent views concerning the office of the minister into the latter decades of the nineteenth century. The minister’s call to the ministry, preparation, ordination, call to a congregation, and mutual responsibilities with church members were derived from clear biblical statements and principles. The end of the nineteenth century, however, witnessed a shift in the Southern Baptist view of the work of the ministry regarding the ability to produce quantifiable outcomes—a shift which became firmly established during the first two and a half decades of the twentieth century. This shift fueled a Baptist concern for organizational efficiency, a concern which viewed successful churches as those which were optimally organized to produce quantifiable results. Because pastors were seen as the key to organizational efficiency, they were judged according to the success of their churches’ achieving those results."

May God bless you as you continue your formal education.

Bill

 

46 credits - Bible, Northland Baptist Bible College, 1980-1981 (2 sem.)
70 credits - Bible, Bob Jones University, 1981-1982 (3 sem.)
B.A. English - Grace College, Winona Lake, IN, 1983 (2 sem.)
M.Div. - Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, 1984-1986
M.A. - Counseling, Liberty University, 1991
D.Min. Cand. - Revival and Reform (historical thelogy), Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, 2007

 

Paul,
From what you've written, I like what I hear about Gordon-Conwell's DMin program. I wonder if it is more academic than most others because of David Wells' critique of DMin programs in general entitled "The D-Min-ization of the Ministry" (in No God but God, ed. by Guinness & Seel), an essay I refered to, BTW, in my dissertation.

Bill