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Then if you know for a fact that it's a lie, there's no need for me to provide proof. So as I said, believe what you wish. It won't change the truth just because the clique is too lazy to look stuff up for themselves.

 

All this reminds me of something my Uncle Elmer once said, "An elephant can walk through your Living room and you don't have to see it". Now he's the one who also told me to turn the other cheek. I did and got the other fist.

 

He said YOKE. And if you need a definition, ask Bill Clinton. He's good at defining words.

 

Maybe webdog needs to get you to define "get together" and then the two of you can compare it to what Rick Warren does at his "get togethers".

 

Now stand in front of a mirror and repeat that.

You've got eyes and fingers. Find it.

Is that a confession from you?

 

:laugh: That's right. You don't have to see it but the tell-tell signs are there. And it doesn't make it any less factual that the elephant had been there just because you didn't see it.:thumbsup:

Were you smaller than he was? :laugh: If so, he better be glad. :laugh:

 

my a droid changed the spelling...I know what it means, but wanted his understanding since he thinks common goals is just that (its not).

 

Summary of thread:

Video presented which made several charges against Pastor Rick Warren

Charges were refuted by multiple people.

Thread deteriorated.

Lets consider the charges:

1) The purpose driven life omits the gospel. Rebuttal, the five purposes of God for our lives is a revamped presentation of the Gospel.

2) Pastor Warren's message is not convicting. Rebuttal, many more lives are being changed in many churches because of the use of revamped outreach efforts.

3) Pastor Rick does not preach repentance. Rebuttal, Biblical repentance based on careful study of scripture is preached by Pastor Rick.

4) Rick Warren points out salvation is not based on works such as sufficient doctrinal knowledge, and therefore rejects the old "stop smoking and memorize the Roman Road, then give yourself to Christ" heresy. No rebuttal necessary, see Matthew 7. Jesus does not ask if we are pre-trib.

5) Pastor Warren has destroyed the Evangelical Movement. Rebuttal, Rick has opened a new avenue to reach the world.

 

Annsni..

C'mon Ann. You know better that.

I clearly posted earlier that in normal circumstanses we should be as friendly and and kind to them as anyone else.

It is joining up with SATANIC false religions and cults... IN MINISTRY...that is the problem.

 

Yep she knows all too well what you were saying. But they've got to make a point that they're right now and that what you're saying is wrong.

 

And here is just another example of why I don't personally waste my time linking or explaining anything for the clique.

As you show you don't really have any true interest in what he was saying. You just want more fodder to show why you think he's wrong and you're right.

 

No, its called teaching and admonishing one another. Its in the Bible. Open one.

The illustration of yoking is meant to show two animals connected going in the same direction, down the same path. One doesn't have to be yoked to share same interests and common goals.

 

Let me do the heavy lifting for you...

http://tinyurl.com/dywm7xz

 

How can you claim he endorses false teachers...then say he is not heretical? Both cannot be true. You passively aggressively make these kind of claims. Philanthropy is not turning away from the Gospel as you are erroneously equating it. It is a fulfillment of the Gospel. I wonder how many churches wouldn't take a monetary offering from an atheist or Muslim. I'm betting none.

 

Man that ain't teaching. That's you trying to make yourself look bigger just like you always do. You'd already made up your mind that he was wrong according to your post so there was no need for his definition. You and the clique do the same thing REPEATEDLY so that you can make a point.

I'm sure that everyone is well versed on what yoking is.. And you're right, one doesn't have to be yoked to share the same interests and common goals.

As such, there is NO reason for Rick Warren to yoke Christianity to these false religions for ANY reason.

 

Now let me do some heavy lifting for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+don%27t+care+dictionary

 

So now you are a seer? Who brought the stones...

...and back to our regularly scheduled program: Non Sequitur...

 

Well said.:applause:

I think a lot of folks who make that claim believe that folks care about his fame and money and the size of his congregation.

If he is expanding God's Kingdom, then I hope Saddleback covers the state of California. Couldn't care less about his fortune and fame.

Another issue with Rick Warren is that when I hear his name, it often times is attached to an endeavor that seems to make his name and his causes greater while the name of Christ appears( at least to me often times) to be left behind.

There's no jealousy. There are the same sorts of issues with Rick Warren that people started to see over the years with Oprah and her "pragmatic" approaches.

Thank you for the insightful information. I for one will be passing it on.