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Why do British self-described “Christians” support pedophilia?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by MartyF, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. MartyF

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    Thoughts?
     
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    publicized practices of Anglican priests
     
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    Are you suggesting that 'Tommy Robinson' is a paedophile?
    I have never heard that.
     
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    I do not know him, but suggest the bad guys get all the press and notoriety, The good ones are stained by public as the bad ones
     
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    Seriously?! I post videos supporting Tommy Robinson, and from that you get that I am accusing Tommy Robinson of pedophilia?

    Please tell me you are joking.

    You completely ignore the videos I posted from a well known and respected apologist and then you go to some leftist Islamist propaganda to uneducate yourself.

    Do you love Islam? Is Islam "ok" with you? Do you plan to convert? Or do you consider yourself to hold dual citizenship in Islam and Christianity?

    Do try to educate yourself. I don't think the British government has gotten around to banning the videos - yet. So, you can take the opportunity to actually learn something.

    If you are thinking about converting to Islam, you might want to try his other videos. He has been quite successful in turning people away from Islam.

    Or, if you want to remain ignorant - that is your option.

    The thread title is correct. Your ability to read the American language is limited. First, notice that Christians is in quotes. This is used in America to inform the reader that the writer does not actually consider what is in quotes to be true. Notice also that they are called self-described. This is another hint to show that the author does not believe they are Christians.

    Even by the leftist sources of Great Britain, the fact that thousands of children are being or have been inducted into Muslim rape-gangs and the perpetrators of these heinous crimes are only getting a slap on the wrist is common knowledge. Some are getting a pat on the back.

    '1,400 children abused' in Rotherham
    British Girls Raped by Muslim Gangs on "Industrial Scale"

    What is the reaction to this horrible injustice by the most holy "Christians" in England?

    Ahh, Queen Elizabeth II, Head of the Anglican Church! Surely she said something about how horrible these crimes were and how Islam was a motivator for these crimes. Surely she asked for something to be done. Surely she used her clout to campaign to raise funds to support the victims who were affected.

    Queen Elizabeth II Pledges to Protect the LGBT Community
    Queen Elizabeth wants to know if shoppers 'cheat' at self-service checkouts

    Uumm - right . . . what about her charities?! She's got hundreds of those. Surely she could have done something there.

    The Duke of Edinburgh opens a new stand at Lord's Cricket ground
    Charities and patronages

    Hmm, nothing here. Cricket seems to be really important. Oh here's something!

    Celebrating Queen's Young Leaders on International Women's Day 2019

    Nah, nothing about the victims of Muslim rape and it seems like they won't find any help here.

    So, Queen Elizabeth II of England clearly supports pedophilia as long as it is a lesser-class white girl/boy being raped by a Muslim. She isn't doing anything about it. She's shown no interest and is the epitome of apathy. And yes, if someone has a bully pulpit and says nothing about the systematic pedophilia ignored by the government and church she heads, she supports pedophilia.

    But maybe she is just old and senile and doesn't realize what is going on because she doesn't have the cognizant sense to understand what is going on. What about the future head of the Anglican so-called "Christian" Church. Maybe there is a new dawn of justice and fortitude from the next leader?


    'Follow the Islamic way to save the world,' Charles urges environmentalists | Daily Mail Online

    Right . . . . . . . . . . the next pedophilia supporter is up and coming.

    Ok. This is the Baptist Forum. What about The Baptist Union of Great Britain?

    The Baptist Union of Great Britain : No-deal Brexit concern in letter to PM

    Well . . . the Baptists of Great Britain are definitely political. However, they also seem to have nothing but apathy about the injustice.

    Is there a single pastor, minister, or anyone who is using his pulpit to call out injustice?

    From what I can tell the only possible Christians in England are a football hooligan and his deplorable supporters.
     
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    Same reasons some Americans support a president who sleeps with porn stars
     
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    {QUOTE="MartyF"]
    Seriously?! I post videos supporting Tommy Robinson, and from that you get that I am accusing Tommy Robinson of pedophilia?

    Please tell me you are joking.
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    Yes, I was joking.
    But these links of yours are jokes. The perpetrators of child abuse and rape have been tried, found guilty and given long prison sentences, and it is no thanks to 'Tommy Robinson' whose foolhardy actions might have compromised their trials. He has likewise been tried, found guilty and given a short prison sentence, richly deserved.

    And the inability of both you and your links to understand the role of the Monarchy is laughable. Go and sort your own country out.

    I now return to my self-imposed exile from this board.
     
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    Your videos featured Tommy Robinson. Who is the "well known and respected apologist?"

    I love people - even those who hold to false religions like Islam & American WASPs. I lived in an immigrant majority town with Sikh's, Hindus & Muslims for over 50 years. As Jesus said, "Love your enemies."

    One thing you need to notice as you listen again to Prince Charles is that he is talking about people, not the sort of Islamic extremism & extremists who are the cause for concern. The vast majority of people of any religion or none are responsible citizens who abhor paedophilia & exploitation of others. They just want to live in peace.

    If we were only friends with with people like you & Robinson, we would be very short of both friends & true Christian fellowship.

    I do not support the UK Royalty system. It sates from 1066 when foreign invaders took over the country & William's supporters set up a ducal landlord system that resulted in 1,000 years of oppression of the poor.

    However, unlike USA, both Royalty & Government are responsible to the whole population, regardless of ethnicity & religion. The British Empire was very inclusive & had to recognise the religions of its foreign territories. However those religions were to some extent kept in subjection & peaceful cooexistence. People from Empire (now Commonwealth) territories were allowed to come freely to Britain after WW2.

    Why should a letter to the PM about the consequences & injustices of Brexit on the poor be cited in this thread? I've added my signature.
     
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    Well, that's your opinion of a well-respected Christian apologist. You must really love Islam.

    :Roflmao:Alien

    Many of them are already out. If you counted up the rapes, a couple days in prison per rape is what you're saying are "long prison sentences".

    Exodus 20:16 KJV
    Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

    I'd like to hear your logic on how what he did "compromised" their trials.



    Here's what he did. Go ahead. Point out the "compromise."

    You believe that expressing opinions deserves a prison sentence. [snip]

    And your complete inability to understand [snip] is truly sad and depressing.

    Matthew 23:23 NLT
    “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

    :Roflmao That's rich coming from an Englishman. :p

    We do sort out our country out. Since when has GB had to come to the U.S. to save us? Oh yes, you came to burn our capital because we had the gall to object your enslaving our citizens.
     
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    Videos feature David Wood. You might want to educate yourself before spreading lies.
     
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    You just don't love the thousands of girls who were raped by Muslim grooming gangs. [snip]

    So, you're saying that followers of Islam abhor the Prophet Mohammed - peace be upon him. . . . . . :Roflmao

    So, now we are suppose to be friends with Muslims . . . . . . Have you ever bothered to see how that works out?

    :Roflmao:Rolleyes You don't know your own country's history.

    I didn't provide it to even disagree with it. I provided it to show that you are more than willing to act politically - just not when it comes to the defense of boys and girls from grooming gangs.
     
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    On a point of information, around 17 people in Rotherham were convicted of rape from Dec 2015 SFAIK and they received sentences of between 12 years and 35 years.
    None of them are out of jail yet. People convicted of lesser offences may perhaps have been released.
    While the vast majority of the criminals were Moslems of Pakistani descent, not all were. A guy called Tony Chapman was sentenced to 25 years in jail for a string of child sexual abuse crimes.
    Absolutely! How are you going to witness to them if you don't befriend them? Hate will get you nowhere.
     
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    Rochdale grooming gang: all but two have been released from prison

    Don't need to hate. The Muslims need to be corrected and challenged - even if it would start a riot. Muslims need top be told who Mohammed was and challenged when they attempt to peddle a lie about their religion.

    Let's all just get along and be friendly and not broach difficult topics gets nowhere.
     
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    Looking more closely at links in the OP, it is a matter of great concern that the Rotherham police & authorities were aware of the abuse but afraid that taking action against Muslims would be seen as racist.

    I suggest there is/was a similar problem with Epstein in that his plea bargains & payouts for lesser offences. Presumably that action protected other eminent figures including Prince Charles brother.

    Also our countries seem to be afraid of speaking up against the Israelis for their oppression of the Palestinians, including the killing & maiming of peaceful marchers, including children & paramedics. Also the detention of children who throw stones at tanks attacking their homes & schools with tear gas & skunkwater. "We" are encouraging them in the destruction of homes & villages so Jewish settlers can take over Palestinian homes, land & resources.

    As God says,
    1 Woe to those who devise iniquity,
    And work out evil on their beds!
    At morning light they practice it,
    Because it is in the power of their hand.
    2 They covet fields and take them by violence,
    Also houses, and seize them.
    So they oppress a man and his house,
    A man and his inheritance.
    3 Therefore thus says the LORD:
    “Behold, against this family I am devising disaster,
    ....................... Micah 2.
     
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    A few years ago, a man was accused of murder and canibalism. He was sent to broadmoor for life. My nephew is a senior nursing officer at broadmoor, and he once called his mum and said that he had been playing scrabble with the canibal. "I hope he doesn't eat you" said my sister.
     
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    Good to see you’re paying attention. At least I didn’t start a thread with it. Cheers.
     
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    There is still a lot which the police and authorities are still overlooking in England concerning the Muslim population because they want to defend Islam.

    Yes. The rich are generally able to use money and wealth to insulate themselves from punishment.

    Some of the key differences.

    1. Epstein is not a member of a religion which promotes pedophilia. Islam is a religion which promotes pedophilia.

    2. No one has gone to jail for the "crime" of protesting Epstein, covering his trial, or doing facebook live videos about their opinion about him. People have gone to jail in England for covering the trials.

    3. No one has been told by the government to not cover or report on Epstein's trial. People have been told by the English government not to do this.

    4. No one has been banned from the U.S. for speaking out against Epstein or his supporters. Anyone publicly speaking out against Islam is banned from England.

    5. Epstein's picture, identity, race, and religion are not required to be hidden in the media. English media regularly censors the religion and ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

    6. Epstein is dead. The grooming gangs are alive and well.

    Hmm. You really support islam. You might want to educate yourself.





     
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