Jacob Dahlen
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I find it odd that most Protestants do this…
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Why do protestant groups insist on saving people that don’t need saving…?
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mcdirector
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Share the gospel?
Joseph_Botwinick
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I have no idea what you are talking about?
Joseph Botwinick
Joseph Botwinick
tragic_pizza
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I know lots of folks who don't have faith in Christ. It's kind of hard to share your faith when everyone around you already shares that faith, isn't it?
Note that I don't think any more Catholics and Orthodox need evangelizing than Baptists.
Note that I don't think any more Catholics and Orthodox need evangelizing than Baptists.
Baptists are not Protestants, by the way. We were never part of the mother harlot church, the one in Rome. Ana-Baptists were tortured, burned, drowned, and their blood was shed over and over for refusing to conform to the catholic and reformed churches, yes, even the church of england. Bibles were chained to the pulpits in those other churches so the common man could not find the truth about saving GRACE, but the Ana Baptists and Mennonites and the Brethren mamaged to keep authentic copies of the Textus Receptus hidden so that the papists and so called "reformers" couldn't eliminate the real Bible. Martin Luther and Calvin killed thousands of Baptists, did you know that?
tamborine lady
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So back to the origional question:
Why do protestant groups insist on saving people that don't need saving?
The bible says "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God".
So how are we to know unless we ask.
BTW, I once knew a lady that was Catholic and she always called her sister to find out what they were supposed to do on certain days.
She was NOT saved, but because someone asked and told her the way, she accepted Jesus and then threw away her rosery beads.
God Bless,
Tam
Lady, you need to get your facts straight, Anabaptists led several revolts in Germany, btw Luther didn't kill anybody he was in fact rather distraught over people supposedly killing in his name. Luther by the way used an early version of the TR so I really don't see why he'd want to destroy it. In addition, Anabaptist did come out of the RCC via an amalgamation of Zwinglism and Calvinism.
I have a lifelong Catholic friend who married another lifelong Catholic friend of mine and one day while witnessing at a district fair this couple happened by. Now I had witnessed to both of them before but they showed no interest whatsoever. This day however they stood with me to listen very intently as I witnessed to others who came by. Then about three months later while witnessing in their hometown, in the park, the lady of this couple drives up to me and says, I just came by to say hello, but immediately the Holy Spirit said to me that's not why she came by, she came by to pray with you, ask her the question. After asking her the question are you absolutely positively sure you're going to haven she said, well I'm trying. I then said to her do you want to be sure, yes she said, I then led her in the sinners prayer. And she became happy and I occasionally see her and she is still saved. Now I am not trying to get a saved saved. But if I have any doubts in my mind about a person salvation I feel loose my duty to deliver the message to them about salvation.
The first General Baptist congregations were set up in the early 1600s, the first Particular Baptists in the 1640s. Both came out of the Puritan-separatist movement within the Church of England and are therefore rightly regarded as Protestant.
No, I didn't - because it's not true. Since Baptists did not exist prior to the 1600s (see above) and Luther died in 1546 and Calvin in 1564, I fail to see how it could possibly be true.
Bro. James Reed
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The first General Baptist congregations were set up in the early 1600s, the first Particular Baptists in the 1640s. Both came out of the Puritan-separatist movement within the Church of England and are therefore rightly regarded as Protestant.
No, I didn't - because it's not true. Since Baptists did not exist prior to the 1600s (see above) and Luther died in 1546 and Calvin in 1564, I fail to see how it could possibly be true. </font>[/QUOTE]If such is the case, then there was a time when the gates of hell did prevail against God's true church.
I reject that notion.
The true Church of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has always been here, however, in times past, under different names than Baptist.
The Baptist lineage is never through the Catholic church.
tragic_pizza
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Holy Moses.
Are you all that in love with the Baptist sect?
Honestly, people, learn some history. Oh, and try and read the Bible on occasion, too... you know, the stuff about "if a man says "I love God' and hates his brother, he is a liar." That kind of stuff.
Yeesh.
Are you all that in love with the Baptist sect?
Honestly, people, learn some history. Oh, and try and read the Bible on occasion, too... you know, the stuff about "if a man says "I love God' and hates his brother, he is a liar." That kind of stuff.
Yeesh.
Doubting Thomas
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That is based on your assumption that the "Baptist lineage" is the one true church, an assumption that you bring to the text. So in the face of historical evidence to the contrary, you must imagine some hypothetical existence of proto-Baptists (which have left no trace of evidence) before the middle ages to support your assumptive and anachronistic reading of Christ's promise. But this is the same sort of thing that other groups (including JWs, Mormons) do as well to justify the legitimacy of their sect.
Bro. James Reed
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For a good read on Baptist history and lineage, please view the following link:
Baptist History
I stand by my statement. The church never ceased to exist because Christ stated such.
If the true church was ever in league with the RCC, then that statement is not true and there was a time that Christ's church did not exist.
I can not bring myself to believe that God would let His witness on this earth be silenced while it still stands.
BTW, I do not agree with my brethren who insist on trying to "save" people whom they meet. I have no problem sharing the good news of salvation with those whom I meet, but it is not my job to try and push my beliefs onto someone else. If God believes they are ready to know the truth, then He will lead them to it. Aside from them knowing the truth, God does not need mine, nor anyone elses help in saving His people eternally.
I despise seeing my brethren write about the people they have "saved from hell" and such. I cringe everytime I see someone write about a person they know who died and they just aren't sure if they were "saved", or even worse, if they proclaim to know they "weren't saved".
God has not given us the knowledge to know such things, neither has He given us the ability to decide such things.
Should we tell people about the Lord? Most assuredly. Should we be trying to do the Lord's job by thinking we can save people? Definitely not.
Baptist History
I stand by my statement. The church never ceased to exist because Christ stated such.
If the true church was ever in league with the RCC, then that statement is not true and there was a time that Christ's church did not exist.
I can not bring myself to believe that God would let His witness on this earth be silenced while it still stands.
BTW, I do not agree with my brethren who insist on trying to "save" people whom they meet. I have no problem sharing the good news of salvation with those whom I meet, but it is not my job to try and push my beliefs onto someone else. If God believes they are ready to know the truth, then He will lead them to it. Aside from them knowing the truth, God does not need mine, nor anyone elses help in saving His people eternally.
I despise seeing my brethren write about the people they have "saved from hell" and such. I cringe everytime I see someone write about a person they know who died and they just aren't sure if they were "saved", or even worse, if they proclaim to know they "weren't saved".
God has not given us the knowledge to know such things, neither has He given us the ability to decide such things.
Should we tell people about the Lord? Most assuredly. Should we be trying to do the Lord's job by thinking we can save people? Definitely not.
Rough nite? Anyway the above post IMO should be edited for calling Brothers and Sisters in Christ to belonging to the "harlot church".
Can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your Baptist church has ties to the Anabaptists?
Even if you hold their teachings you cannot actually claim descendency from them. BTW Menno Semmons descendents are called Mennonites so no Baptist at least didn't descend from that Anabaptist leader.
As an Anglican I abhor your absolute stupidity concerning the chaining of Bibles to the pulpits. Please post on things you actually understand and have an accurate idea on. Bibles were chained to the pulpits so they would not be stolen. Church members could go and read them anytime they desired.
Martin Luther never killed anyone neither did Calvin. In fact the Huegenots(?sp) were killed by the thousands. Chemnitz is right you know Martin Luthers translation's base Greek text was that of the TR. Shootin yourself in the foot? And Erasmus created the TR in 1516 and he was an ex-Catholic priest, semi Reformed certainly not anabaptist. So again why not go pick up a good history book and stop spouting all this rubbish.
In Christ,
Nate