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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Saint of Circumstance, Oct 2, 2017.

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  1. TCassidy

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    Yes.
     
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  2. Saint of Circumstance

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    Hey,.. you are the one adding to the scripture that which does not exist...How can I have an honest dsicussion when you keep moving the goalposts?

    anyway I guess this thread will be closing soon so we can all bow out
     
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    Understood... lets set aside whether or not it is past for a sec...

    If you believe the day has already been appointed, then how can it be "delayed"?
     
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    Thanks for the clarification!
     
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    Exactly. Some is still future. Just like it says in Revelation 1:19 Write therefore the things which you have seen (in the past), and the things which are (in the present), and the things which will happen hereafter (the future).
     
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    Except you still keep editing out the "In the air." The phrase is "together with them IN THE AIR."
     
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  7. Saint of Circumstance

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    Just because something was future to John hardly demands it be future to us.
     
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    No, I am not. It is you who refuses to deal with the simple bible statement "together with them in the air."

    I haven't moved anything. My position is exactly the same now as when we started this discussion. The dead in Christ rise first then the living will be caught up "together with them in the air."
     
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    I've never disagreed with the fact that the Dead Rise first, then, sometime after that, the Living would be caught up and be together with them in the air.

    I simply differ with your interpretation of air in this passage.
     
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    David Kent has already agreed the Second Coming is yet future. Please, try to keep up.
     
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    Thats the same position I hold!

    I just don't see any scripture that indicates the duration of "then" is immediate, and have posted several scriptures supporting my position that it is NOT immediate.

    I also do not hold your interpratation of AIR as being the earths atmosphere in this passage.
     
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    Glad to see you have come around.
     
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    I don't agree. But I'll keep out of your conversation with him.
     
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    I havent come around to anything.
    Its been my position from the beginning.
    You wont find one single post of mine that claims otherwise

    You appear to be inventing a position that I do NOT Hold and ascribing it to me without warrant, so you can argue against it...

    Theres a term for that somewhere....
     
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    Then why did you try so hard to explain away "together in the air" with all that completely off point "wife in New York" nonsense?
     
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    ::SIGH::

    a·nal·o·gy
    əˈnaləjē/
    noun
    1. a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
      "an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
      • a correspondence or partial similarity.
        "the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
      • a thing that is comparable to something else in significant respects.
        "works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"
     
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    Yes. I know. With absolutely no textual or contextual reason to consider it to be anything but literal.

    "Words mean things." Except to you. Then they don't mean anything at all.
     
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    Well lets see ... God created the earth, man and He said it was very good.

    But then,

    Genesis 6:6 And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
    7 So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

    Also:
    Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way;
    and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

    God does what He pleases, though He is sovereign He alters His plans at His will.

    So, for whatever reason He has delayed His coming.


    HankD
     
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    This thread is closed without prejudice. So, if there are still matters to be debated, members are free to start another thread.
     
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