Why I Support Universal Healthcare Coverage

From the OP source:

If this is an example of someone they determined died from lack of insurance, this study is useless.

Hannum made a conscious decision not to carry insurance for many years. His fault.

He refused to go to the ER. His fault.

He finally went to the ER. By the time he was admitted for surgery, he died. His fault. This indicates he was scheduled for surgery without regard to his lack of insurance. That's the law.

It appears Hannum died from a ruptured appendix complicated by terminal headedness and stupidity. Not because he had no insurance.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4367132,00.html

How thousands of cancer patients and doctors have been betrayed
25,000 deaths a year could be prevented if we matched Europe's best hospital treatment, reports health editor Anthony Browne

SocietyGuardian.co.uk
Sunday March 3, 2002

The official limit is 315 a year, or a maximum of six in one week. Medical authorities have decreed that, if a cancer doctor sees any more new patients than that, it could endanger their health - the doctor simply will not have enough time to ensure they get the care they need.

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It's the biggest health scandal in modern Britain: according to a World Health Organisation report to be published later this year, around 10,000 British people die unnecessarily from cancer each year - three times as many as are killed on our roads. If Britain had the same services as the best available in Europe, it would save 25,000 lives a year - the population of a small town.

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For thousands, delaying treatment makes the difference between life and death. A recent Glasgow study of patients waiting seven weeks for radiotherapy found that for one in five lung cancer patients the delays meant curable disease becoming incurable.

Sometimes patients may be denied treatment. Although lung cancer is the most commonly diag nosed cancer in Britain, with 40,000 new cases a year, only 100 surgeons can remove tumours. A study last week by the Society of Cardiothoracic Surgeons found fewer than one in 10 lung-cancer patients was receiving surgery, compared to one in four in the US ...

 

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

I believe you to be the liar, bub. Denying yer own words.

If you don't like me throwing them back at you, why don't you stick to those "friendly" atheist sites ?

 

I have a great life. You wouldn't believe it. A lot of folks would love to be in my shoes. As far as infatuation, I fight evil when I see it, and you post it up a whole bunch.

 

Chihuahua a dog? I thought that was what they used in lab experiments.

One thing you and your fellow travelers fail to consider that a substantial number of doctors [I believe about 45%.] have said they will give up practice if the Government takes over health care.

 

If you were really concerned about making healthcare more affordable, you'd be lobbying Congress to pass tort reform, to abolish "in state" laws for insurance companies, to make medical proceedures tax deuctible, to give doctors the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies and drive down the cost of medical care, to make every American eligible for a Health Savings Account (HSA), and removing the requirement that individuals must obtain a high-deductible insurance policy before opening an HSA, etc.

Until you do that, you don't care about making healthcare affordable to the poor. You just want a liberal government power grab.

 

You are showing either your naivete or being deliberately obtuse. Pelosi states that there will be a government run option which will swallow up all medical insurance. It is the leftists democrats determination to have a single payer plan. That is socialized medicine.

MP,
You are showing either your naivete or being deliberately obtuse.

 

Tort reform. Lifting interstate insurance regs. Stopping free emergency room health care for illegal aliens. For starters, but nothing you lefties want to even discuss. You would rather lie and tell us we have blood on our hands, the most absurd thing you have ever posted. （And that is saying something）How does one debate such a moronic post ? My advice to all was to ignore it, and base that on your hateful past.　

And if you tell us the government won't take over care, you are the liar. That, along with your other lies. And the fact that you tell us chihuahuas are smarter, Christ made terrorist threats, AND my pastor belongs to the KKK, and never backing them up make you the troll.

 

The falacy greater than the one that people die because they don't have health insurance is that somehow the government can solve the problem. The government, friends, won't do anything but politize medical care, corrupt the process of obtaining it, introduce more waste to it, and, as always, tax those who produce to buy votes from those who don't.

 

Funny how the same people who insist that we need the government to take over healthcare are the same ones who spent the last eight years screaming about how bad the VA and military hospital system is.

 

Not really when you consider that the hatred spewed by the democrats/liberals/Fascists against Bush makes the remarks of the tea party folks look like valentines! The cause for such hatred of Bush started because he would not roll over and let the democrats steal the election and exploded from there, fueled in part by his War on Terrorism.

 

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Originally Posted by Magnetic Poles
...up to 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health insurance, it points out why I believe universal coverage is a moral imperative.

It keeps being repeated frequently that hopsitals, ER's, et al, cannot refuse to treat patients without coverage, so that just 'raises the premiums for all of us that have coverage.' So in that way, is there not already 'universal healthcare?' Would the net change even be significant? And frankly, it's easy to see 45,000 dying annually because of ignorance or stubborness about seeking treatment. 'Universal coverage' will not make people smarter or more likely to change their unhealthy habits. And I don't think it will force people to get an annual or semi-annual checkup... but who knows on that one?

 

Given the long track record of failed government "solutions" how can anyone have any shread of belief that therein lies the source to betterment of medical care? When will we learn?