Why I will no longer say "God Bless America"

LE,

It would be a shame if you let the errors of a few (albeit in leadership) to create a bitterness that infects your view of the country as a whole.

This is just today. Things change in a moments notice without warning. What is needed is fortitude. Call your representatives till they cant stand to hear from you anymore. Support a candidate that will handle things in the American tradition. Pray and fast. Put your energy into anything to effect change. But give up is not an answer.

I will be praying for you.

 

Deserved? No.
Needed? More than ever.

So I'll pray for it.

Now pledge allegiance to it? No.
Fly a flag? No. I took my flag down the day the government intervened with my family and disregarded the rights and freedoms of myself and my children and I found I was powerless - that those freedoms mainly are for those who can afford to defend them.

My allegiance is to God.
My symbol is my Bible.

I will stand and sing God Bless America.
I will pray for our leadership.
But...I won't defend it from true accusations, for the truth is an ally, an ally which we cannot afford to lose. For the sweetest honey of a soothing lie brings only pain in the future, but the truth brings peace in the present for those who will face it.

I was trying to be really dramatic and inspirational and straight-out-of-a-movie like...how'd I do? :smilewinkgrin:

 

LE, please reconsider. Please continue to pray as you have in the past. As usual, the people of America needs prayer as much or more than ever before. Do not abandon hope.

 

God Bless America Words and music by Irving Berlin
© Copyright 1938, 1939 by Irving Berlin
© Copyright Renewed 1965, 1966 by Irving Berlin
© Copyright Assigned to the Trustees of the God Bless America Fund
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"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.

- www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/godblessamerica.html


I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

- www.poofcat.com/july.html





Regardless of what others may do, I will never, ever, turn my back on my country that God has blessed me with living in - the greatest country that God has blessed this earth with in all of its history.

 

Be careful what you wish for, LE. Be very, very careful.

I am curious, though. And I ask this sincerely: Now that you have turned your back on this country, what country will you be moving to as I imagine you don't want to continue to enjoy the blessings that the rest of us have living in the United States?

 

The black-turbaned cleric made a scholarly, theological plea for greater dialogue among cultures but stayed away from direct commentary on current events. He did admonish both Eastern and Western cultures to "rescue life from the claws of warmongers and violence-seekers and ostentatious leaders," but he named no names.

- http://tinyurl.com/nmhbz

Yeah, we have to be careful about allowing anyone to speak in the National Cathedral against warmongers and those that commit violence.

 

Is it still ok for me, a foreigner, to continue to pray for God to bless Americans?

Shucks, even your president now calls our prime minister, "Steve"...:laugh: We must be friends again.

Cheers,

Jim

Does free speech end where we disagree with the speaker?

 

Jim

You have my permission, and my blessing upon your blessing of my country.

May God bless Canada as well . . .

Wayne

 

We have had decades of state sanctioned infanticide and not too long ago starved a woman to death, and yet, this was the final straw for you? There is nothing good enough about America that would compell God to bless us. We are truly a totally depraved society and have been for a long time. It is only God's mercy and grace that has sustained us this far. If you think spiritually that you are any better, I hope you understand the grace and mercy that has been shown to you. So no, don't pray for God to bless America. But give God the glory alone if he does continue to do so. And perhaps, instead of praying for the suffering and death of our soldiers, who are part of America, and my family, who are also part of America, much like Fred Phelps does, you might send a prayer that is more reminencent of the prophets of the Old Testament who prayed for God's mercy and grace. Or perhaps, you might even look to the example of Jesus on the cross who prayed for God to forgive them for they know not what they do. I think that would be a more Godly response from you. What do you think?

Joseph Botwinick

 

Do you see the destructive, unfortunate consequences of the Arminian doctrine which makes the free will choices of man more powerful than the sovereignty of God. You act as if God is sitting helplessly by, unable to answer your prayers for our nation because of how others voted in an election. How sad. Is God in control of the universe or is man? I bet that you will somehow find your prayers answered faithfully, however, in the next tragic natural devestation or in the next terror attack. I can hear you, Pat, Fred, and Jerry now proclaiming the judgment of God on America. Do you have your God hates America sign yet?

Joseph Botwinick

 

Well that was completely unnecessary and an incorrect view of free will which need not be equated with Arminianism.

Anyhow.....

Le none of that is right. As you look back in biblical history God only removed himself when the overwhelming majority turned against God. And then he always saved a remnant. There are so many christians in America that are so faithfully following God. Do not discount them. LE you are discouraged. Something has taken your courage. During such times we should withhold our words and seek God's face. Pray for our leaders, our country, and our people and allow God to be God.

 

You could ask that question about any country on the face of the earth.

You act like because everything isn't going to suit you in the U.S. that you want to pick up your marbles and go home. Fine. Just let us know what country you like better that you are going to move to.

 

Why?

For the sake of those that are in it and still asking. For the sake of the innocent. Because I'd rather not have things get even worse at least while people I love are still here. Because grace preaches more than punishment for a lot of people.

Because he is an unfair God and gives us what we don't deserve and more, and that is why we are to come to him with boldness. It doesn't take much strength to ask what deserve...but we deserve NOTHING. Yet we are told to ask for it. So let's do that.

Because we need it...because it would encourage us, because it might discourage enemies, because there are still more than 10 faithful people in our country.

Think about what a blessing could be. A blessing could be a law passed that makes it harder to obtain an abortion.

A blessing could be better leadership.

A blessing could be more people turning to God.

 

I'll ask God to bless America, 'cuz my kid & future grandchildren are going to be living here.

 

That is quite possibly true. But, for the sake of my children, if the Lord tarries, I pray that God will bless America. Even more than that, I pray that America would be a blessing to God!

 

Job 2:10
......................... What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.