Why would someone

Yes, and I even provided the evidence. The flu shot, the pneumonia vaccine, the measles vaccine....none of these have been pulled.

It is impossible for the covid vaccination to cause covid (one advantage of mRNA....but I suspect you know this).

The vaccinated can get and spread covid (although this remains a popular anti-covid-vax straw man). They are less likely to do so, but they can.

 

I understand what you are saying, bro.

I'm saying the technology is not new (ModeRNA Technologies has already used the technology (but not released commercially).

I'm just saying this is always a concern when something new comes out. I couldn't imagine being the 1st with a pig heart valve!

I understand and agree with your concerns for waiting. I thought about it myself.

 

I can't agree because I do not know what he is doing (I do not watch Biden and don't watch the news).

IMHO the only vaccine that should be mandated (for those under the authority of the federal government in an employment context) is the Pfizer vaccine as it is FDA approved.

The FDA is the determining factor. Individuals will have different opinions about the length of time for a vaccine to be out before they trust it. Some may say 6 months. Others 1 year. Others 5 years. But the governing authority regarding the safety of vaccines is the FDA.

And the FDA does not take its matching orders from the WH (as evidenced by their disapproving booster shots for the general public based on Israel's study that the two shots given early this year ate still effective). The FDA nixed Biden's booster plan.

 

For the general population, I agree.

But for specific employments I disagree.

I am retired Army. The Army mandates vaccines (17, if I recall correctly....and now 18 with the Pfizer vacvine). And they mandate more depending on where you are going.

Granted...this is not forcing a vaccine (we have an all voluntary military).

 

They always have. The issue is it is about tge ability to accomplish the mission.

If somebody is red-green color blind they cannot join the infantry. This is discrimination based on a medical condition. But the way the Army sees it, those people cannot distinguish between red and green smoke.

The same applies to FDA approved vaccinations that help with viruses which could affect military readiness.

 

No. It is discrimination by definition. Same with the old policy of allowing women (regardless of ability) into the infantry.

It has to do with military readiness. If there is a virus that has the ability to cripple a platoon and there is also a FDA approved vaccine then it is responsible to mandate the vaccine.

 

I disagree. The military should look after it's members and the mission even above individual rights.

Same with getting a job. You do not lose your rights but you have to decide if you are going to meet the requirements of employment or not.

People need to stop demanding employers meet the desires of employees. If you want to work for me then you will meet my conditions (I will not meet your demands for me to employee you....I'll just hire someone else).

The whole thing about employees deciding how a company is ran over the interests of the employer is socialistic.


So we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

I agree. An employer should have the right to make decisions about conditions of employment but not be able to force another human being into compliance.

 

It has to be a concern since OSHA has identified covid as a workplace hazard (this was in 2000) and the FDA approved the Pfizer vaccine.

That said, from my understanding the idea was to have proof of vacvine OR weekly covid tests.