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Will you accept the verdict in the Chauven trial?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by canadyjd, Apr 11, 2021.

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  1. Yes, we must trust the process and our justice system to get the right result.

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  2. No, if the jury acquits, it’s because they are racists

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  3. No, but f the jury convicts, it’s because they are afraid of riots.

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  1. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    It’s not robbery. Robbery requires theft by force, not theft by deception.

    peace to you
     
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    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    If the autopsy disagrees, the defense attorneys had the chance to bring it up during cross examination.

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    What defense attorneys? I've seen only one. There have been several prosecuting attorneys.

    It was ridiculous that the mentor of the coroner said she agreed completely with his death certificate, then couldn’t explain what “complicating” means. Hard to shake the impression that

    She’s been working on the railroad all the live long day;
    She’s been working on the railroad just to put Chauvin away….​
     
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    I stand corrected. The defense attorney had the opportunity to bring it up on cross examination.

    peace to you
     
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    You came in to this trial with your mind made up. That's fine as long as everyone else recognizes your bias.
     
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    Mind made up? No,(snip) But your posts contain many of those. Innocent unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? Always. That's the "American Standard." Anyone that doesn't know and agree with that is harboring ignorant bias, and should never serve on a jury.

    But why, or better yet, how would you defend such ridiculous “testimony?” A witness who says under oath that she agrees with something but then admits she doesn’t know what that something means is not presenting bona fide testimony.

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    One could say the same about you...
     
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    Passing a phony 20 is not robbery - that was a different crime-
    I'm just saying the individual (wont call him a man) was no choir boy)
    They were dealing with a criminal and took precautions.
     
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    You do not see a rush to judgement then? as the Liberal Dems and media always seems to be taking tha view that the police are always wrong every case!
     
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    Manslaughter, not murder!
     
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    As I’ve have already stated, Mr. Floyd was no angel. He was a petty criminal and a drug addict. The police were right to investigate the crime, they were right to arrest him, they were right to restrain him when he resisted.

    He was a man. He was a human being. Once the police had him in custody they had a legal responsibility to care for his well-being.

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    Actually, that decision was good for the defense
    The judge stated that the defense had not been given the time to consider the info that was in the DA report.
     
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    The judge barred testimony, as best as I can tell, concerning blood gas tests. The autopsy showed no evidence of carbon dioxide poisoning, which a defense expert had stated was a possibility.

    The state’s expert said there was no evidence of CO2 poisoning, per the autopsy, and blood saturation was normal at 98%.

    The defense, I think, seized on the testimony that the blood saturation was normal. I can see the significance since the state’s experts testified Mr. Floyd died from low blood oxygen levels, But the defense already rested their case.

    The judge felt it would result in a mistrial.

    Certainly a decision worthy of an appeal.

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    This may be your best observation on this trial. However, it contradicts your basic premise, namely that the system should be trusted. The system failed when the judge insisted on this venue. That decision taints the entire process.
     
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    Any police or other type of agents on the Jury?
     
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    So please explain, from your view, how this fits what happened. I bolded part of the statute and I don't think this rises to that level.
     
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    The blood saturation evidence (normal at 98%) is devastating to the prosecutions case. They produced three medical experts that stated the cause of death was low blood oxygen levels caused by prolonged officer restraint. That is clearly not true.

    The defense should have known what was in the autopsy report and impeached the testimony at the time.

    This evidence provides clear reasonable doubt that the officer caused the death of Mr. Floyd.

    peace to you
     
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