Women Teaching Men

A godly woman will sumbit to her husband's authority.

A godly man will submit himself to his wife's needs.

As it is in the godly New Testament church.

 

Could you source this work for us ?

 

I too am puzzled why Icon fingers "they took him" as if it is some profound statement supposedly negating Priscilla being a teacher to preacher Apollos.

 

So, how does that negate Priscilla being a teacher of preacher Apollos?

 

For all we know their home was the church.

 

II Cor. 16:19
The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.



Apollos was preaching in the synagogue; it was from there that "they took him" for teaching.

 

You just destroyed your argument. As the teachers they were the church and he was with and in the church when he was with them.

By the way I agree the real church is not a building. English, unfortunately, is weak in this word and that is a shame.

 

Bro Curtis...

Sorry bout that.

I always provide links. I must have been sleepy or something.

Here it is...




http://www.cbeinternational.org/?q=content/about-cbe

 

I do not believe that a woman should ever have authority over a man. This is one of the reasons I chose a combat MOS. No females allowed (yet), meaning no female officers or NCOs above me.

However, with that being said, we have lost that fight in our culture. I would not leave the military simply because a female was put in charge of me.

Now, as to your real question, the pastor has authority over the governings of the church. He has the responsibility of tending his flock, and trying to get them to return to the fold should they stray. The pastor is servant yes, but also leader. The pastor is to set an example that all his flock can follow.

I don't believe the pastor's authority extends to the home. However, the pastor is the guiding authority of the church.

I know it happens, and it is sad. I have to say with humility that when I first got married, I was pretty immature, impulsive, and selfish. However, I am an alpha male. My wife was able to temper me through submissiveness and love. Had she tried to usurp my authority, we'd have butt heads and we'd be much worse off.

As I said, the husband is the one who has to answer for the decisions made in the home. The woman will not answer for them. She only answers how she reacts to the guidance of her husband.

The flip side of that, is that the husband needs to realize tha his decisions affect more than just himself. He would be foolish to make decisions without consulting his wife, who is often more insightful than he is.

 

This is very gently said and with no desire to antagonize, but I fear you are going to have a very difficult time adjusting to civilian life after your military career is ended. I am not sure how you can prepare yourself for the eventuality.

My wife had an uncle who was career Air Force and he never adjusted to being out of the military. Though well meaning he antagonized many he met. He was fortunate in that many realized where he was coming from, overlooked his overbearing attitude and included him in activities. He as a very good cook, not career related, and one of his great joys each year was joining a group of hunters at their hunt club during deer season. He never hunted, but was their cook and enjoyed their company.

1. In what way do you see the authority being manifest?

2. When I was young I expected more of my pastor than myself. When I was middle aged I expected as much of my pastor as myself. Now in old age, and with more experience I do not expect as much of my pastor as of myself. I do not see them as my example.

 

Baptists generally follow biblical congregational (by all the saints) governance, rather than episcopal (dominance by one man) schemes.

 

I did not take that to be antagonistic at all. Many people who are in the military for a long time have a hard time adjusting to civilian life. I feel I must explain though, I did not say that I would not work under a woman's authority. It is basically a necessity in the civilian world at times. I am merely saying that Biblically, a woman shouldn't have authority over a man.

As to me being able to adjust; maybe, maybe not. I can't say right now. But know that I did not join the military right out of high school. I went to Bible college, worked for a pastor, became ordained, became senior (although interim) pastor of a church, became a youth pastor/principal of a christian school. All before I joined the military. I have a lot of experience working outside the military in the civilian world.

The authority is manifest as the Pastor is either the one making all the final decisions in a small church, or at the very least the head of the board of deacons. The discussion of church polity is a different discussion,

This is a bold statement I am about to make which will probably lead to a whole new thread. But, if your pastor is not an example, then you need a new pastor. As sheep in the pastor's "flock", we are to be following him. If he is not a man who should be followed, then he should not be a pastor.

 

I go to a small Baptist church that is very laity lead. [Actually I believe that if a person is a Christian they are either all clergy or all laity. It is that different people are called to different ministries. Some within the church, like the pastor, and others to their ministries in the world. To me the primary job of the pastor is to help others prepare for taking Christ to those they meet in the jobs, their ministries in the world.]

In our church the only job that is expected of the pastor during worship is the sermon and perhaps the children's sermon though sometimes others conduct the children's sermon. Everything else during the worship service is lay lead.

I know of no Baptist church that would allow a pastor to make all final decisions. I do not see how they could do this and still be called Baptist. This might be an interesting discussion in another thread.

I have learned during my life that pastors are people and I must allow for their humanity. I do not want to sound like a pious dufus, but I reached a point years ago where I came to the conclusion that it is not reasonable for me, in light of how Christ lived, to set standards for other. My job is to set standards for myself and try to live them. I hope this makes some sense.

 

Baloney. If you were concerned with setting standards for only yourself, you would not call those who disagree with you "bigots".