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Would Tehran Do the Unthinkable?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. KenH

    KenH Active Member

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    A very interesting, well thought out column:

    "The fact that Iran has wielded force through proxies and not through its conventional military, however, is a strong indication that the regime understands its strengths and weaknesses. What's more, these signature acts of Iranian violence against the United States were aimed at military targets with the political goal of reducing America's influence in the Middle East. The regime's support for anti-American insurgent elements inside Iraq has a similar purpose. Despicable as this violence is, it differs from al Qaeda's genocidal ambition to kill as many Americans as possible in mass casualty attacks against civilian infrastructure inside the U.S.

    What's more, since the Iran/Iraq war, Iran has developed a chemical and biological weapons capability, according to GlobalSecurity.org. Such weapons, while not as singularly destructive as an A-bomb, are much better suited to surreptitious deployment. An Iranian-instigated chemical or biological attack against Israel or the United States has been within the capability of the Iranian regime for at least a decade, and yet they have not launched one. Nor have the Iranians committed 9/11-style terrorist spectaculars against the U.S. homeland despite the relative ease and low cost of such attacks.

    All this suggests that Iran understands, and respects, the limits of its aggression. Despite the end times rhetoric issuing forth from its demagogic president, the country has assiduously avoided acts that would invite a massive military retaliation. This is not indicative of a nation longing for a nuclear conflagration.

    To argue that Iran does not have the hallmarks of a suicidal state is not to argue for complacency in the face of its nuclear ambitions. Clearly a nuclear-armed Iran would complicate America's involvement in the Middle East, raising the costs of our alliances and minimizing our leverage with the region's autocratic oil pumpers. That's not ideal, but nor is it a harbinger of the apocalypse.

    America has a long, and largely successful, history of containing and deterring nations much stronger and much more viscerally hostile to America than Iran. With two ongoing wars in the region, the untamed menace of a reconstituting al Qaeda in an unraveling (nuclear) Pakistan, a rising China, budget deficits as far as the eye can see, and a strained Army, the U.S. should resort to non-military tools to curtail Iran's nuclear pursuit."

    - first part at www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/11/would_tehran_do_the_unthinkabl.html
     
  2. JustChristian

    JustChristian New Member

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    Frankly, I don't think we would have the resources to invade Iran unless we did two things:

    1) Bring back the draft, and

    2) Significantly raise taxes.

    Neither one of these would be acceptable to the American people unless absolutely necessary.
     
  3. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Iran can do what it wants. One of the consequences to doing what they want is they might become a glass parking lot. Lots of room for Walmarts.
     
  4. KenH

    KenH Active Member

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    Even if Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons it is years away from being able to do so.

    Pakistan has nuclear weapons now and the country is in danger of destabilizing much like Iran did in 1979 when Islamic militants took over.
     
  5. Baptist in Richmond

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    Excellent point, although I doubt that will stop the POTUS from invading Iran anyway.

    Hope all is well,
    BiR
     
  6. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member

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    Would Tehran Do the Unthinkable?

    How would they think of doing it?
     
  7. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Make you their leader.
     
  8. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member

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    personal attack snipped
     
    #8 Alcott, Nov 9, 2007
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  9. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    That is about the dumbest comment I have seen you make, and considering your theological arguments, that is an accomplishment.
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member

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    No "invasion" of Iran is forthcoming in the forseeable future.
     
  11. TomVols

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    I think Iran might be closer than we think. But I think Pakistan is a situation we need to be very afraid of. Their instability, and our inability to do anything about it (what could or should we have done practically or constitutionally?) is troubling.
     
  12. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1 Active Member

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    Ah, very good Alcott. :laugh:
     
  13. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1 Active Member

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    This kind of article which, by the time it gets to the end, has you ready for the punch line.
    a) It's a nice regime, with understanding and good world citizenship.
    b) they're nothing like al Qaeda
    c) they don't want a nuclear confligration
    d) and finally, we don't need to go there:
    .....1) too expensive and
    .....2) diplomacy works hah!
    This is just the kind of writing that leads astray. I agree it is well written, as a support for the evil forces at work. It soothes you into the liberal mindset, that says, "just get out and go home"
     
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