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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by agedman, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    Do you know of ANY aprt from Jesus in the bible who never sinned though?

    Do you remember ALL save him have sinned and fallen short of glory of God?

    We are born physically into Adam and His sin, we are born estarnged from God, very nature at war against Him...

    When do we go from all right with Him to sinners then?
     
  2. Winman

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    Of course not. What is your point?

    EVERYBODY believes this. Again, what is your point?

    We are physical descendants of Adam yes, but sin is not physical. Is a lie physical?

    The scriptures do not teach we are born estranged from God, they teach we are made upright, and go astray afterward.

    1 Pet 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

    A sheep that never belonged to a shepherd and was never in his flock cannot be said to have gone astray. You cannot run away from home unless originally you were in your home.

    And Peter says we are now RETURNED to Jesus. You cannot return someplace you have never been. If you were born estranged from Jesus, you could not return to him. So, this verse absolutely proves that all men are not born estranged and separated from God.

    You have let people teach you false doctrine, and now you spread false doctrine to others. That is a VERY dangerous thing to do.

    When we know and understand right from wrong. Paul said he was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived and he died. It was learning and understanding right from wrong that convicted Paul as a sinner. This is when he died.

    Paul was NOT born dead in sin, he said he was alive without the law once. If Original Sin is true (it isn't) then no man could ever say he was alive once.

    So again, you teach false doctrine, VERY dangerous. I wouldn't do that if I were you.
     
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  3. Yeshua1

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    How and when do we become sinners then?
     
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    How? By committing sin.

    When? Whenever you knowingly choose to sin.

    Now let me ask you a few questions.

    Why do we park on a driveway?

    Why do we drive on a parkway?

    Thanks in advance for your answers.
     
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    So until ANY chooses to sin, God sees them as still being right with him then?

    bablies sin as infants, so is that when our natures change from pyure to sinful then?

    So would God excuse and accept those who never denied jesus, whio never heard of him, as never chose to deny him then? Why even preach/missions, ignorance would be bliss!
     
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