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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by mandym, Jul 9, 2012.

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Does God learn

  1. Yes, scripturre clearly shows us that He does

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  2. I believe He does in some way but not sure how

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  3. No, and those who believe He learns hold on the heresy

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  4. No, those who believe He does are just wrong

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    While we hold differing views, this post is spot on. That God knows what He has chosen to know, rather than everything imaginable is fully consistent with all scripture. The name calling folks deny the obvious.

    It is important to believe what scripture actually says, rather than the doctrines of men which do not fit with all scripture, in order to say we believe in the God of the Bible, rather than the god of man's invention.
     
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    Even if the Bible taught that God limited his knowledge(it doesn't) it wouldn't be God not knowing something and learning something as some here incorrectly teach. It would be more of God not using the knowledge he has. The Bible clearly teaches that God knows everything. (knowing everything he has chosen to know is laughable and of course unbiblical. How can you choose not to know something...you would know it to choose not to know it....duh!). It also flies in the face that God is eternal. If God knows something now, he has always know it because he is eternal. If God learns something, his knowledge changes. God doesn't change.

    some of the verses that teach that God has ALL knowledge

    I John 3:20, John 21:17, Psalm 147:4,5, Acts 15:18, Isaiah 46:10, Psalm 139:4, 1 Kings 8:39...

    Some of the verses that teach that God doesn't know something or learned something he didn't' know.....
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    The biggest issue is not the questions about Jesus and limiting knowledge. The issue is that the Bible teaches that God knows everything and some want to make God into something less than he is. It is denying many passages that teach that God knows everything and making unbiblical assumptions on other passages to say that there are things God doesn't know. Not knowing everything is not the God of the Bible.
     
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    ...then explain how Christ, being fully God didn't (doesn't) know the time of His return?
     
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    His knowledge was limited only during the time that He took on human flesh. He has now returned to the glory He had with the Father before the world began. He was only limited in His humanity and that for only 3 years during His earthly ministry.
     
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    This has to be one of the silliest things I've ever read on this board.

    How can you choose to NOT know something without already knowing it in the first place? :confused:
     
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    ...and back to splitting Christ's humanity from His deity again :BangHead:
     
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    The Father knows = God knows. The discussion is over does God learn.
     
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    Jesus is one person with two different natures (divine and human). There are some things that are hard to understand. God is eternal and cannot die....Jesus died. God knows everything....Only the Father knows the time of the return.
     
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    JBH...I am truly extatic whenever you weigh in....and I hate this....but...even though I (who basically agrees with you), this answer is not sufficient. I am a devotee of exhaustive foreknowledge myself...but....I feel compelled to do the dissenters job for them:

     
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    Possible answer to the question:

    Easily...If you can differentiate between the "content" of a belief and the knowledge that a "fact" merely exists...how stupid do you think God is???? Those are two separate truths:
    1.) There is a "truth-value" to what will occur
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    2.) What the ontological reality of what that occurance is...:rolleyes:

    It isn't that complicated really.
     
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    I have no idea what you just said.
     
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    I'm not splitting anything, unless you consider rightly dividing the word of God to be "splitting". :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    ......I know
     
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    Yes. You're sooooo much smarter than me! :laugh:
     
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    Jesus is God. Jesus didn't know. Apparently Jesus had to *gasp* learn when His return would be :)
     
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    ......Yes....
     
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    I don't know how powerful this argument is meant to be...but if it is designed to be something of a play on words...if the intention is to out-smart him by an equivocation between the word "divide" and "split" which only has signifigance to the Western mind if at all...Allow me to Rob you blind of this ill-advised argument completely....

    One who is an amateur sycophant of ancient History might note that....in ancient Egypt (for instance) in courts of law...all "arguments" or contentions were required by law to be submitted in writing, and the literal definition of the word: "Argue" was literally to "Split-hairs"....Just love that History...sheds light on stuff.....(see the inestimable Historian Will Durant for this) robs people of avoiding substance by placing random synonyms for words while avoiding defining them....Please express your real intent without playing stupid word-games....stop lying. Stop trying to "out-wit" or decieve...let your "yay" be "yay" and your "nay" be "nay".
     
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    :applause: And where there is confusion, the devil is at work.

    This ought to clarify for you, Amy, how unBiblical is this whole concept that there is something God doesn't know and has to "learn".
     
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    The Father is God and did know. So to say that God didn't know something is error.
     
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