Featured GOP leaders to skip Selma event

Looks like someone didn't take a Critical Race Theory class.

 

Supposing that you were a rich white man educated both here and on the continent and expert in Julius Wellhausen and having insultingly been asked to show your ID to your racist ignorant inferiors on the premise that you might want to vote more than once as if one-man one-vote were not some sort of racist formula and multi-voting were not your prerogative as an intellectual....

 

What's true ? That asking to prove who you are is racist ?

 

Looks like someone took the "How to turn every little thing into a race issue" class. By the way what is black theology?

 

My wish list of voting requirements:

1. Age 30
2. 60 months of W2's or equivalent
3. Pass basic literacy test
4. Pass basic history test
5. Issued Voting License with picture and identifying information
6. Present Voting License to vote

 

You would effectively eliminate over half of the GOP, including 90% of Baptists...

 

and that would be a bad thing....why?

 

Incorrect. It's an economics thing. Poor black and brown people overwhelmingly don't have a driver's license because they don't have cars. They take the bus. And the GOP well knows this.

the same applies for Senior citizens. They don't have drivers licenses.

And often times people can't get the state id because of the other document requirements that they have to pay for in order to get a state ID.

Prima facie evidence again says that when you disparately impact a particular group, that legally it is considered discrimination. Not racism. But discrimination.

 

Scarlett it is not an honest argument and they know it. It is just a cover to let illegals vote. Nothing more.

 

As mentioned earlier a lot of these people cannot get the documents needed for ID. I will give you an example of someone I know and their situation.

A homeless Vietnam Vet who is homeless because he could not afford his house payment and the medication that keeps him alive. He could not get his Vet benefits because he only had a copy of his birth certificate. It also precluded him from getting a state issued ID/Drivers license. Now, he had his birth certificate, but it was an official copy that was not notarized. Only notarized, official state documents are acceptable.

My Sunday School teacher, who us also a Vietnam Vet, went to war with various agencies helping this guy get his benefits and he is now living in a hotel while things settled.

Imagine you are a poor, uneducated person that many consider "trash" that has no official documentation and no way to get it. It doesn't matter where the bus goes. A lot people in these situations don't even know what hospital they were born in, and many were born at home.

If they want to demand ID to prevent voter fraud it will have to be by way of fingerprints/dna or some other workable ID solution.

 

Fingerprints would be racist because they would show prior criminal activity.


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Shags, the guy in your example seems to have bigger problems than the right to vote. I'll send one up for him.

 

That's the point right there Scarlett. I wasn't saying that there weren't poor white people without cars too. But studies have shown that there is significant difference in the number of poor black and brown people in most states without cars and licenses vs the number poor white people without them.

Either way you look at it, people's votes are being suppressed because they don't have a license. And when it the evidence shows that the majority of the people being affected by such a rule all share a common trait like skin color or age or income class, then it's considered a discriminatory practice.

One white man rides his bike to church because he is too poor to own car. Some of our black membership drive themselves - and some we pick up in our church bus.

It doesn't. Not having the money to get other documents does that. I remember a long time ago, back when I lost my license, the hoops I had to go through in order to get the right documentation so that I could have them replaced. I hadn't had a physical Social Security card since I was a kid of which I knew. i lived a long way away from my family so I didn't have access to my birth certificate. And they only accept certified copies of the birth certificate. And there's only certain places that you can get certified copies. And then you have to pay and then you have to wait. And I got to drive from that place back to the DMV and pay again and wait again to finally just get my license replaced.

Most poor people just don't have the ability to do or afford all of that.

And as was said, most of them don't have the documents or the money to get the documents required.

I recently took a young man to get a state ID so that he could look for work. It seemed like every time we went in there, they asked for something else. And after going all over creation from one agency to the next, we were able to finally get what was needed and get the kid a state ID.

It can pass by all it wants. If you can't afford the documents you need to get the ID or don't have the documents, then what good is a bus ride by the DMV?

That's just like saying they don't have to be poor if they don't want to be poor. They can just exercise their American privilege and just go out and get a better paying job or a job period.

It doesn't work like that when you've economically be set on a certain path because of a lack of education. And this happens A LOT in economically poor families in poor areas.

The public schools receive less because bills are passed to take funding away from them to give vouchers for alternative and private schools, and the amounts taken usually don't cover the costs of attending a private school.

So the schools in these poor areas receive less and less and the quality of the education gets worse and worse because the good teachers don't want to get stuck in these areas.

So a lot of the kids don't finish school and they certainly don't go to college. And then they get stuck in a system and a certain line of poorly paying jobs.

ECONOMICS.

Voter IDs clearly suppress the votes of the poor, black and white. And it just makes no sense to pass such a thing unless you just don't want more people to vote.

 

So this is REALLY why so many folks in the GOP are so mean and nasty about these folks. They think the Dems are trying to get more votes. I knew it.

Everything with some of you goes back to your politics instead of just plain ole decency and treating people like people.

Shameful.

This whole ID thing is silly. I find it pitiful that I can walk into an LA Fitness anywhere in the country with a little scan card and it can pull up my face and any other needed information but state governments haven't figured out how to set up the same type system for voting.

 

Or you and your vote suppressing buddies could just worry about your vote and leave folks alone and let them vote.

The answer on the right always seems to be that we're giving you enough time, so just do it.

And that's just odd coming from folks who are always talking about the rule of law. The rule of law says you can't discriminate against people in protected classes.

These laws are clearly discriminatory.

So why isn't the right trumpeting the rule of law in this instance?

 

It's called the truth. Glad you felt it called for a snarky response.

And here in lies the problem that is endemic in my fellow honkies. What works in your neighborhood doesn't work everywhere. In the state of Georgia, to get a license, or ID, you have to bring in a birth certificate or passport, and bills from utility companies, to prove you are who you say are and that you are a legal resident of the state. I have been a licensed driver for 30 years continiously and those are the hoops I had to jump through. My parents have been licensed for over 65 years and they had to do the same. The world is bigger than your own backyard.