Featured Mary Sightings in History

As always you defend a position by character assination as you attempt to do here. What else would you call what he said?

Sounds modalistic to me. Catholics do not hold that Mary Created the creator. She participated (I know you don't like that word) in the incarnation. That doesn't mean she caused the incarnation (since you confuse what participation means).

 

Better go back and refesh yourself on Modualism or Seballianism. He mistakenly said that God is "three beings" but that is not modualism but tritheism.

Modualism is the idea there is but ONE PERSON who is the Son who at times reveals himself as Father and other times as the Spirit. It illustrates itself by the analogy that one person can be a father, a husband and a son but not Three Persons but only One person that takes up three different modes of expression.

 

Ok, but now when you say things like

now you sound tri theistic or holding to three gods.

 

Correct! But not modualistic!

 

You know you're right I applied the wrong heresy to Yeshua. He sounds like purporting another heresy of Tritheism. Or adoptionism. But not quite adoptionism. There are so many heresies that get regurgitated I get lost remembering them all. But Nothing is new under the sun!

 

No problem, I get things confused at times too.

 

You are correct! One being, who has eternally manifested himself as 3 seperate/distinct persons, yet having same essense...

As the NEB put it, "whatever God was, the Word was!"

 

Nope, i hold to the Trintarian view that God is but ONE Being, but has eternally manifested himself as 3 seperate/distinct persons, yet ALL sharing SAME essense, all 3 equally God!

believing in 3 Gods would make me a Mormon!

 

You are holding to a Catholic Doctrine established at Nicea in 325! Good for you. However, by what you said you sounded like a mormon by seperating Jesus out from the entirety of the Godhead at the incarnation.

 

It is established in the Scriptures and it was confirmed with even the term "trinity" by a Montanist - Tertullian long before Nicea.

 

Think that the Apostles realised that in their own lifetimes, as peter and paul address jesus and the Holy Spirit as being God, along with the father of the lord jesus!