Featured New Birth before and Unto Faith !

Grace is applied by the Holy Spirit by giving New Birth. Everyone Christ died for is given a New Birth by His resurrected Life 1 Pet 1:3

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Faith is born out that Lively Hope, a Fruit of the Spirit !


But, as far as Justification before God is concerned, Christ's Death, His blood alone is the bases for Justification ! The resurrection of Christ is evidence that all for whom Christ died are Justified before God Rom 4:25

25Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

You reject this however, a teach a false gospel whereby man is Justified by his act, his work !

 

billwald

So you believe one is saved by keeping an command of God !

 

dhk

Anyone who makes their faith a condition to get saved !

Yes, I believe that scripture, but I do not believe you ! That verse says nothing about Faith not being a work that man does

 

hp

Now we agree !

Now this statement is False and is promoting salvation by works !

 

I have no problem with what Jesus said, but it is the false teaching of work mongers, who teach that salvation is a result of their acts of righteousness, like repentance, faith, confessing sin. That is entirely against scripture. Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

You rebel against that !

 

You hit the nail on the head, those who teach that they are saved by their act of Faith or believing, they are no different than any other work religion.

For salvation is not of works, which is described by the word ergon :

business, employment, that which any one is occupied

a) that which one undertakes to do, enterprise, undertaking

2) any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind

3) an act, deed, thing done: the idea of working is emphasized in opp. to that which is less than work

Believing is a work, an activity of the Mind or Heart, for they are the same thing. The greek word for heart in Rom 10:9-10 is defined here:

the heart

a) that organ in the animal body which is the centre of the circulation of the blood, and hence was regarded as the seat of physical life

b) denotes the centre of all physical and spiritual life

1) the vigour and sense of physical life

2) the centre and seat of spiritual life

a) the soul or mind, as it is the fountain and seat of the thoughts, passions, desires, appetites, affections, purposes, endeavours

b) of the understanding, the faculty and seat of the intelligence

c) of the will and character

d) of the soul so far as it is affected and stirred in a bad way or good, or of the soul as the seat of the sensibilities, affections, emotions, desires, appetites, passions

c) of the middle or central or inmost part of anything, even though inanimate


There is no significant if any difference in the heart of man or the mind of man !

Gen 6:5

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Now who wants to argue and debate that the imagination and thoughts of man are not directly related to his mind !

Now the word believe in both Rom 10:9-10 are performance verbs, action verbs ! Believing is performed with the hearth or mind, and falls into what the scripture defines as a work !

So you can deny it from here to dooms day, if you believe in salvation because of your faith, believing, you believe in salvation by works !

 

hp

I do not know where you been, plenty of people think that way !

 

Who shall declare His Generation ?



Isa 53:8

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

The generation in question is Christ's generation, His Spiritual offspring, and being it a spiritual offspring, the speaker must be the Holy Spirit, for only God's Spirit can communicate to that which is spiritual [1 Cor 2]; even though the Spirit may and does use the voice of flesh and blood or human Gospel Ministers; This principle is brought out by Paul here 2 Cor 3:6-8

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

7But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

A Spiritual ministry directed to a spiritual people or generation in a spiritual kingdom formed by the Resurrected Life of Jesus Christ !

Also that the Gospel ministration is spiritual is seen here 1 Cor 9:11

11If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

The spiritual things being the Gospel

Rom 15:27

27It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things.

The spiritual things once again being the Gospel !

Now the spiritual things being the gospel, and the natural man cannot receive of those things of the Spirit of God 1 Cor 2:13-14

13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Gospel is preached to that spiritual seed or generation which is said shall serve Him, and it shall be accounted to the the Lord for a generation Ps 22:30-31

30A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

31They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born [Regeneration or New Birth], that he hath done this.

Its that Chosen Generation that shall offer up spiritual sacrifices 1 Pet 2:5,9

5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The Prophet states, that after His soul shall be made a offering for sin Isa 53:10, that He shall see His Seed or His generation !