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1 Chronicles 21:1--And SATAN stood up against israel,and provoked david to number israel.

2 Samuel 24:1--And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against israel and he moved David against them to say,Go number israel and Judah.

These 2 texts are the identical story,just in different areas of the old testament, In Chron Satan(Adversary) In Sam LORD(adversary).

Hope this one helps you to see what im saying

 

Greetings Friend--Sorry i have come across the wrong way to you--dont mean to come across the wrong way,but we are all here to support our stance on what we believe about scripture--NONE of us are 100% correct in what we say--But all i see here is some of you bashing all the time others for giving their veiw(whether true or false)Hopefully we can all agree and disagree in a Rightful manner and one that is non respectful

But i will admit i hope to get you like God got the Jews in choosing the gentiles over them--to get you to a point to instead of recieving tradition--to actually get in the bible with your anger and study the whole thing out old testament and new. May God bless you all here and may we all come to the fulness of his Understanding

 

Hello Freind .

Theres a difference in just hearing and accepting a view because it might sound right in our own eyes--but to dig deep in the word of God and find the Truth is a completely different way

 

If the Serpent was a snake and the so called Satan entered the snake and spoke through it--tell me who or what is the seed that God is talking about from the Serpent ? is it the seed of the serpent or satan ?? and is snakes babies gonna bruise the heel of Christ ?? and how is the angelic being named satan gonna have seed of his own ??

Just some thoughts -- May the Lord bless you

 

my apologies friend--it should have been the woman's seed bruising the Serpent's head and the Serpent bruising the woman's seed heel.

Pls forgive me i get into a hurry sometimes cause i have other things to take care of--ill take more time to get it right next time

 

Friend its either both God there in those verses or its both satan.

either you have God being related to the word Satan(Adversary) or you have Satan being related to as God--and we know this latter one isnt right.

Do a word study on the word Satan and find out where it came from and it never was a name for a fallen angel to the jews-- we in our use of language today would say the word (Adversary).

But in the jews time they had a different language than us today they used the word SATAN to say (Adversary)

 

the Dragon from revelation had 7 heads and 10 horns--that is symbolic of a empire with 7 nations and 10 kings with it--Could have been Roman empire.

Paul told them that God would crush Satan under their feet SHORTLY--Freind shortly means the same as it does to us--So it happened in their lifetime.

So Satan(Adversary) was crused under their feet in their lifetime-you cant get shortly and then say at least 2k years and it still hasnt happened yet?

So who was thier Adversary(Satan) The High priest of the day and them under him was the ones against the church and Christ in that day.

they killed,persecuted the saints and killed even Christ--they were the ones giving all the trouble to the exsisting church and they would be taken care of--that happened in ad 70 where the city and temple were destroyed and they were crushed under the saints feet at that time in their lifetime.

 

Its ok Friend i understand

But NONE here has offered any scripture which proves that Satan was actually a fallen angel or the event even taking place--it is just a traditional view without scriptural evidence.

Because you cant find it in scripture--you can only assume that it is talking about that from the generations of tradition--the jews had the same kind of tradition and they treated Christ the same way when he came to them with the TRUTH-- may God open our eyes unto his Truths and bless you all

 

You have proven the point i made better than i could prove it myself friend

you are using illustrations that are common to us in our language today--The jews had a totally different thought pattern and methods and illustrations that they used to help them understand the things in their time.

Still you need to do a word study on Satan and find out where it came from and what it meant and how it was used by the jews--afterall it was in their time the whole bible was written

 

Read everytime time in the old testament when Satan is used and youll find it mostly deals with a person or persons who are an Adversary or Adversaries to someone or something--Angels do not have the capabilty of sinning like we humans--we are flesh and blood--they are spiritual bodies without flesh and blood--they have no temptation like we humans--CHRIST had no temptation to sin untill he became FLESH and BLOOD--it has always been mankind's wickedness from the beginning--the only creation of God that does not obey God totally is mankind--angels doesnt know what sin even is on a personal note--

So the answer is their enemies or adversaries at the time in which they lived.