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Featured The Truth about the Lord's Day

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by BobRyan, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. DHK

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    What does the Scripture say:
    Hebrews 4:9 There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

    10 For he who has entered into his rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from his.

    11 Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, lest anyone fall after the same example of disobedience. [from the WEB]
    --That rest is Christ. In verse 9 it refers to a Sabbath rest, Sabbath allegorically referring to the rest that Promised Land would have given the Israelites. But Christ offers a more perfect rest. However we must first enter through him; He is our rest; through Him is our "sabbath rest," our rest in Jesus, our promised land with him or heaven itself.
    It doesn't say a keeping of the sabbath day. You are perverting the Scripture.

    (ASV) There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.

    (CEV) But God has promised us a Sabbath when we will rest, even though it has not yet come.

    (Darby) There remains then a sabbatism to the people of God.

    (DRB) There remaineth therefore a day of rest for the people of God.

    (EMTV) Then there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

    (ESV) So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,

    (Geneva) There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

    (LITV) So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.

    (MKJV) So then there remains a rest to the people of God.

    (WNT) It follows that there still remains a sabbath rest for the people of God.

    (YLT) there doth remain, then, a sabbatic rest to the people of God,

    (KJV) Hebrews 4:9 There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
    --Not one of the above translations indicate that the Sabbath is a command. It isn't. You have twisted the Scriptures. There REMAINS a sabbath rest, a certain kind of rest, for the people of God.
    That borders on blasphemy, wouldn't you agree. Jesus condemned "customs."
    There is not "custom" in heaven. The sabbath rest refers back to the promised land. They would have had perfect rest there had they obeyed the Lord but they didn't. However in the rest that Jesus will give them in heaven their rest will be perfect. That is the rest being spoken of--perfect rest. Perfect is not a custom..
    Wrong again. Where does rest come from?

    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
    --Rest comes only from Christ.
    Death comes from the keeping of the Law.
    Again, REST comes only from Christ, not from the law, not from keeping the Sabbath:

    Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
    The link is not valid. The scripture itself says that the sabbath is a shadow. It is passed away as a fleeting shadow does at night time. It is not real. It is gone. Christ "the sun of righteousness" is come. The shadow is gone. The sabbath is gone.
    Look at the nonsense you are writing. Shadows don't give nourishment.
    Can your shadow feed you. Shadows are not substance! Your explanation is found wanting. Christ is come; the shadow of the sabbath is gone.
    The shadow of the Almighty is a figure of speech just like the "arm of the Lord," "the face of God," "under his wing," etc. They are anthropormorhisms--figures of speech to help us understand more about God.
    But Jesus told us directly:
    "God is a Spirit, they that worship him must worship Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24).
    Spirits, including God, don't have shadows, wings, faces, arms, etc.
     
  2. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    I need not reply.

    DHK gave all the necessary.

    Thanks, DHK.
     
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