Waterboarding and your vote for Obama

[LeBuick]

That's easy the people who really run the country need to keep the illusion of a two party system going for as long as they can. At least until they gain our consent to install an honest to goodness (or honest to badness?) one world dictator in our midst.

I'm starting to believe you're right as I watch this drama unfold before my eyes...

 

[LeBuick]

Wrong again LB. It was the democrat congress insistence on banks making bad loans and their refusal to reign in FM and FM that tanked the economy. As far as our image in the world they will only like us when we become a third world socialist country which appears to be "bho"s goal.

Sure OR, the bad loans were the only thing that tanked the economy. There was no other contributing factors...

Even if that is true, why didn't our Republican president sound the alarm or do something prior to Hank asking for $700 Billion? That was being responsible...

 

[windcatcher]

The OP states (emphasis added):

Waterboarding is reported to have been used on only three terrorist suspects. No deaths are reported to have occurred.

Abortion has killed and continues to kill millions. Every successful abortion results in a death.

Obama supports abortion - he voted to expand it before becoming
President and has expanded it since becoming President.

If you voted for Obama - would have still voted for him if he had previously voted in favor of waterboarding terrorist suspects? If he had campaigned on continuing waterboarding as a interogation technique?

Please start you response with a "yes" or "no".

Yep, it's ok for millions of babies to be aborted in the supposed name of economic prosperity. Again, it's called rationalization. By time Obama and the democrats are through with with economy we will all regret that they were in power. But hey, at least the precious reputation of the United States will be improved down at the United Nations building.

How about sticking to the topic of the thread and not continue to attempt to derail it. Thanks.

Derailing?

Patience getting thin, CTB?

What? No apology?

Seems like fair game to me..... T/Y Sag...for your input!

 

[donnA]

I am not a one issue voter. That was one factor of many that I took into consideration. Also, regardless of what a candidate says there is very little they can do about abortion. Whether I like this or not does not change that simple fact.

I think obamas done enough about abortion, he's made it worse by allowing babies to be stabbed in the head with scissors.

 

[KenH]

How about sticking to the topic of the thread and not continue to attempt to derail it.

Well, Ctb, they probably feel that they have no choice as some conservatives are trying to defend the undefensible - torture.

 

[targus]

Well, Ctb, they probably feel that they have no choice as some conservatives are trying to defend the undefensible - torture.

We do not all agree that this particular form of waterboarding is torture.

 

[KenH]

We do not all agree that this particular form of waterboarding is torture.

Not all Christians agree that God is three Persons in One. That doesn't change the fact that God is three Persons in One.

Refusing to admit that waterboarding is torture doesn't change the fact that it is.

 

[targus]

Not all Christians agree that God is three Persons in One. That doesn't change the fact that God is three Persons in One.

Refusing to admit that waterboarding is torture doesn't change the fact that it is.

So then this particular form of waterboarding is torture is doctrine to you?

If only a few drops of water had been used instead of a few cups would it still be torture?

If you say "yes" then it is obvious that you are not engaging your mind but are only controlled by your political leanings.

If you say "no" then you need to tell me where the line is between a few drops of water and a few cups of water.

If you can not draw that line with any degree of certainty and with stated reasons for where you draw that line - then you can not say that this particular form of waterboarding is torture.

 

[windcatcher]

Well, Ctb, they probably feel that they have no choice as some conservatives are trying to defend the undefensible - torture.

Who is defending torture?

Speak for yourself KenH "I'll vote for Ron Paul.....no..... make that I'll vote for the socialist, anti-constitutionalist, we'll fund all your needs.....even abortion, and permit late term abortions and live babies to die, Obama, who will make volunteers mandatory, and insist that doctors and nurses train and perform abortions or their funding for school or pre-natal services and delivery will be cut off..... ......Hey, you know...... everything against what Ron Paul stood for."

If sissors tearing into the back of a babies skull isn't torture.... or tearing a baby into pieces, limb by limb through the opening in the womb..... isn't torture......

And you voted for this mamouth....... Then there is no description which you can impress me with which come close to being torture as I've yet to hear.

I don't understand the emotional level of concern over alleged torture of a few thugs and the callus denial behind the attrocties of abortion.

BTW: LB, just saying something is legal doesn't make it right nor is it a defense for supporting it....... that goes for abortion and it also goes for abuse and torture.

BTW: I voted for Chuck Baldwin!

 

[KenH]

1) If sissors tearing into the back of a babies skull isn't torture.... or tearing a baby into pieces, limb by limb through the opening in the womb..... isn't torture......

2) the callus denial behind the attrocties of abortion.

1) It is murder.

2) I would like to see anyone who performs an abortion to be tried for murder.

I am also opposed to human cloining, embryonic stem cell research, and in vitro fertilization(if more than one baby is created).

 

[KenH]

If you say "yes" then it is obvious that you are not engaging your mind but are only controlled by your political leanings.

If you say "no" then you need to tell me where the line is between a few drops of water and a few cups of water.

If you can not draw that line with any degree of certainty and with stated reasons for where you draw that line - then you can not say that this particular form of waterboarding is torture.

Your statement reminds me of centuries ago and witch trials - if the woman sank and drowned in a pool of water then she wasn't guilty of witchcraft...if she floated and didn't sink and drown then she was guilty of witchcraft.

 

[targus]

Your statement reminds me of centuries ago and witch trials - if the woman sank and drowned in a pool of water then she wasn't guilty of witchcraft...if she floated and didn't sink and drown then she was guilty of witchcraft.

I can't help but notice that you didn't even try to answer the questions - so here it is again.


If only a few drops of water had been used instead of a few cups would it still be torture?

If you say "no" then where the line is between a few drops of water and a few cups of water.

 

[OldRegular]

No...

Water boarding is not.

You are wrong again LB. Waterboarding was supported by the legal authorities in the Bush administration. Waterboarding is illegal to those radical leftists who are also rabid abortionists like "bho" and I must assume those who supported him.

Why not pick on the new Attorney General who was part of the Clinton administration who simply sent people over to Egypt or Jordan for questioning.

 

[OldRegular]

Originally Posted by Crabtownboy
How about sticking to the topic of the thread and not continue to attempt to derail it.

Response Posted by KenH
Well, Ctb, they probably feel that they have no choice as some conservatives are trying to defend the undefensible - torture.

1. Is pulling a baby from its mother's womb and stabbibg it in the neck torture?

2. Is dismembering a baby in its mothers womb torture?

3. Is scalding a baby in its mothers womb torture?

4. Is allowing a baby born alive to die by neglect torture?

The hypocrisy of those who whine and cry about the water boarding of three terrorists to save an untold [because "bho" won't release the info] number of lives while supporting the continuation of the above torture of the unborn is disgusting and a poor example of following Jesus Christ.

 

[KenH]

Waterboarding was supported by the legal authorities in the Bush administration.

So? Abortion is supported by the legal authorities on the U.S. Supreme Court. Does that make abortion right?

 

[KenH]

1. Is pulling a baby from its mother's womb and stabbibg it in the neck torture?

2. Is dismembering a baby in its mothers womb torture?

3. Is scalding a baby in its mothers womb torture?

4. Is allowing a baby born alive to die by neglect torture?

Those are acts of murder.

 

[LadyEagle]

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