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Kentucky Church has Gun Service

tinytim

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At least those in KY don't suffer Brain malfunctions from the lack of oxygen the way people in high altitudes do!...
 

Bro. Curtis

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Well, we don't need a special service to bring our guns to a Cowboy Camp meeting. Chances are pretty good you could run into a black bear, or a cow moose on the way back to the car, so every meeting is open carry.
 

tinytim

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edited to correct a mistake... hmmm.. It couldn't have been me posting.. I don't make mistakes! LOL
 
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donnA

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I do believe carrying a gun into a church in illegal here, as is of course snake handling, even if it was a joke, (I got it)
 

EdSutton

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I do believe carrying a gun into a church in illegal here, as is of course snake handling, even if it was a joke, (I got it)
If so, the earliest churches in KY, such as my own home church (constituted 1782) failed to get that memo, as these early frontier churches actually had armed sentries inside, with gun holes constructed in the first buildings, thru which to defend against Indian attacks, back then.

(Don't know anything about how many snakes were in the pulpit and/or pews,
as opposed to those found in the rafters, though.) :D

Ed
 
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EdSutton

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You are showing either your ignorance or arrogance or both. Church of God folks don't handle snakes.
FTR, the articles was about an Assemblies of God church, which is not the same as a Church of God church, of which there are several flavors of the latter denomination(s).

You might do a little more research on the latter, BTW, for I believe a few with this latter moniker may, in fact, be s-s-s-s-seen to have a few of these 's-s-s-s-serpentine critters' around, at times.

At least I believe that was once the case in my own home county, before a s-s-s-s-split occurred in one local Church of God church body.

Ed
 
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saturneptune

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FTR, the articles was about an Assemblies of God church, which is not the same as a Church of God church, of which there are several flavors of the latter denomination(s).

You might do a little more research on the latter, BTW, for I believe a few with this latter moniker may, in fact, be s-s-s-s-seen to have a few of these 's-s-s-s-serpentine critters' around, at times.

At least I believe that was once the case in my own home county, before a s-s-s-s-split occurred in one local Church of God church body.

Ed
I believe you are right about the guns. We looked into the state law after the shooting in Illinois about carrying guns in a service. The law does not forbid it unless the church has a policy of no guns. We eventually dropped the idea, mostly because no one is trained in handleing hostage situations (totally different than hunting), and felt it was more dangerous than the possibility of someone shooting up the congregation.
 

Crabtownboy

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You are showing either your ignorance or arrogance or both. Church of God folks don't handle snakes.

Check this video out. I don't know about all Church of God folk ... but there are folk who do handle snakes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhvOeNCKhs


But there is a group who use the name Church of God in their title who handle snakes.

The Church of God with Signs Following is the name applied to Pentecostal Holiness churches that practice snake handling and drinking poison in worship services, based on an interpretation of the following biblical passage.

"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover," (Mark 16:17-18).
The exact membership is unknown, and has recently been estimated as low as 1,000 and as high as 5,000 with possibly fifty to a hundred congregations. According to the Encyclopedia of American Religions, churches "can be found from central Florida to West Virginia and as far west as Columbus, Ohio." The snake-handling sect of beliefs and practices go as far as to cross the border into Western Canada in 2004 to Lethbridge and Edmonton, Alberta.

Each church body is independent and autonomous, and the denominational name is not consistent in all areas, although it is almost always some variation of the name "Church of God" (Trinitarian) or "Church of Jesus" (Non-Trinitarian).

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...f+god+snake+handling&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 
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EdSutton

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I believe you are right about the guns. We looked into the state law after the shooting in Illinois about carrying guns in a service. The law does not forbid it unless the church has a policy of no guns. We eventually dropped the idea, mostly because no one is trained in handleing hostage situations (totally different than hunting), and felt it was more dangerous than the possibility of someone shooting up the congregation.
One of our members is a state trooper, who occasionally shows up in his uniform, depending on his work schedule. I have not taken notice of whether or not he wears his gun, while he is in uniform, however, suspecting he may leave it in his cruiser. However, he is actually a 'detective' who is usually in 'plain clothes' even while he is "on-call" so I do not know, but assume he is carrying a weapon, as a rule.

However, with "conceal and carry" laws, I would not be surprised to find a few others actually with guns on them, in KY.

And some large churches do sometimes have some armed security people around on the premises, I believe, as well.

You may recall that an armed security guard at the New Life Church in Colorado effectively ended the rampage of shooter Matthew Murray, by shooting him, before he took his own life, after he was shot (according to the forensic testimony), thus most likely saving many other lives in the process, as the gunman had over 1000 rounds of ammunition on his person.

Ed
 
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Tom Bryant

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When our guys who are cops come to church they usually carry them in a kind of purse. Needless to say we always kid them about it at least until they talk about opening them up. :laugh:
 

Marcia

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Well, we don't need a special service to bring our guns to a Cowboy Camp meeting. Chances are pretty good you could run into a black bear, or a cow moose on the way back to the car, so every meeting is open carry.

I doubt this is the reason this church is doing it. Plus, I'm not sure they would run into these conditions in KY.

I would for sure never attend this church or any church like it.
 

BigBossman

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I have always thought that it would be awesome to have a "shotgun wedding" at church. When my mother & father got remarried, I tried to see about having a 21 shotgun salute. I think the neighboorhood would have freaked out about hearing shotgun blasts at a church. Unfortunately, Mobile County has a law against celebratory gun fire.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I doubt this is the reason this church is doing it. Plus, I'm not sure they would run into these conditions in KY.

I would for sure never attend this church or any church like it.

I wasn't comparing us to them. I am stating the reason we allow, and encourage, people to arm themselves.
 
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