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The Dr. Oz Bait for Vaccines: Why Did He Do It?

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Martin

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That said I am not going to dismiss information just because I do not like it based on the source. That is ad hominem and itself not a credible argument.

==The source of information is important. Any attempt to claim it is not is illogical.

The concerns are real and should not be dismissed so easily.

==I did not "dismiss" the concerns. I simply said that the articles you posted only showed a possible connection, not a certain connection.

And as a result of this last post of yours I am not convinced you have done your research. You are not credible as you want to find a reason to dismiss what you do not like rather than give careful consideration.

==I'm not going to take information from a "natural health" website as seriously as I am going to take information from a Mayo Clinic, Duke Medical Center, (etc).
 

poncho

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Pocho, you have a Revolutionary Minute Man as your avatar.
And yet, you worry about the people who are SCARED.
If they are so SCARED about what the government is doing, why do you care?
Shouldn't you be uniting the ones who are not? Shouldn't you have a task force of 'extraordinary magnitude' that no one knows about?
(Ten points for the first one that can tell me what movie that came from.)
Who are you trying to impress/scare?
What is the phrase?.......Those of you who think that they know it all are very irritaing to us that do.
Just kidding. Keep up the good work.
(We know who you are.):tongue3:

I'm trying to unite people. Shouldn't you be helping me? You could start by pointing out how the government, mass media and big pharma (and all the transnational corporations) have morphed into one huge scaremongering money grubbing machine. But maybe you haven't noticed? I can't imagine how you haven't but...

BTW, I don't worry about scared people but I am amazed that so many people in the land of the free home of brave are being scared into thinking only the government can take care of them. I never thought I would see the day when Americans would be frightened into compliance to every demand and restriction on their liberty a corporate fascist state such as what we have now could come up with.

But here we are . . . how are you helping the situation?
 
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Nonsequitur

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==H1N1 is not part of the seasonal flu vaccine. The seasonal flu vaccine is based on previous flu patterns and forecasts. Is it perfect? No. Is it 100% protection? No. Is it a level of defense that is better than nothing? Yes.
(According to who?)



==Have you studied the history of the flu (strains)?(Uh.....no, you got me there. I have not 'studied' the history of influenza. (I have a life.) (But I guess you have.) So please tell me your 'study' of influenza. It is indeed a very deadly illness. (Noooooo!)Could it wipe out the human race? I don't know,(Well, not according to the Bible.) but I do know that it has killed many, many people. Vaccines are not perfect, but they are better than nothing (for most people).
Ahhh. But that is the problem/solution/debate. Some people do not want to be stuck with a needle that only seemingly protects them from a certain type of virus.
 

Nonsequitur

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I'm trying to unite people. Shouldn't you be helping me? (Wellllll....it depends on what for.)You could start by pointing out how the government, mass media and big pharma (and all the transnational corporations) have morphed into one huge scaremongering money grubbing machine. But maybe you haven't noticed? I can't imagine how you haven't but... (You mean like the Bible says the world is going to turn away from God?) O.K. I'll bite....how are we to stop the Word of God? Why would I want to? How dare I? The world is coming to an end, we can't stop it. Does it really matter how? All we can do Brother, is spread the word of God. That's all. Period.

BTW, I don't worry about scared people but I am amazed that so many people in the land of the free home of brave are being scared into thinking only the government can take care of them. And there I agree with you. But surely you must understand that people ARE scared, hence, our obligation to tell them about Christ, (even the ones you might not worry about that are scared), and let them make up their own minds what they want to do with their lives. I never thought I would see the day when Americans would be frightened into compliance to every demand and restriction on their liberty a corporate fascist state such as what we have now could come up with.Neither did I....but that day is here. And we are the Christians of this day and time that need to spread the word of Salvation.
But here we are . . . how are you helping the situation?

Gee, just like you, I would rather light a candle than curse the darkness.
Right?
 
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