Is a name change needed

[Salty]

A saw an announcement in the paper for an organization that will be meeting this week.

If you were part of it, would you make a motion to change the name?

Salty :saint:

 

[Crabtownboy]

A saw an announcement in the paper for an organization that will be meeting this week.

If you were part of it, would you make a motion to change the name?

Salty :saint:

What would you suggest as a name?

 

[Salty]

What would you suggest as a name?

hmm - ditto

 

[Jerome]

Some organizations minimize their "outmoded" names and instead go just by their initials. Examples:

United Negro College Fund >>> UNCF source

the fund is not prepared to drop the word “Negro” from its name, it plans to try to shift attention away from it. A branding effort being introduced Thursday will seek to play down the full name and instead highlight the nonprofit’s initials, U.N.C.F.

Kentucky Fried Chicken >>> KFC source

the chain is trying to reposition itself in consumers' eyes in hopes of attracting more careful eaters to its 5,000 restaurants.
"The key is to reduce dependence on the word 'fried'"

American Association of Retired Persons >>> AARP source

Many say, “Don’t you have the “R” word in your name?” I always reply, “Not anymore!” AARP has been known just by its initials for well over 10 years now; we are no longer the “American Association of Retired Persons.”

Conservative Baptist Association of America >>> CBAmerica

 

[Jerome]

Here's their reasoning:
NCNW FAQ

Why does NCNW still use "Negro" in its name?

NCNW's name reflects collective pride in our heritage and in the roots of our organization, founded in 1935, a time when to be a Negro was understood to be part of a movement towards the educational upliftment and economic advancement of our people. Our continuing use of the name (which ultimately includes all Black people) - despite innumerable iterations in nomenclature for American people of African descent - reflects the awareness that what we call ourselves at any given moment is less important than who we are and where we stand on the continuum of time, in the context of our heritage, and in the development of our people.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I just wonder why a bunch of white guys would have any interest or concern about what a black women's organization calls itself.

 

[Jerome]

Who's white?

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Who's white?

I'm white. Are you?

 

[billreber]

The people of color are welcome to call themselves by names ("Negro"), while at the same time condemning whites who use the same word! That sounds to me like discrimination in the use of language! (I am NOT saying the NCNW is doing this! Just making an observation from the 57 years of life I have seen.)

By the way, as of now I object to being called "white", since my skin color is much closer to the color called "flesh" or maybe/sometimes "peach". Can we "Peaches" unite to demand a politically-correct change of what we are called? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Actually, I would much prefer that a person's skin color had nothing to do with what people called him/her. I am Bill, not "that white man". My friend James is James, not "that black man". My friend Ruben is not "that redskin", but is Ruben. Get the picture? I have a feeling God sees us as people, not as "blacks" or "whites".

Bill :godisgood:

 

[billwald]

I was upset when the American Motorcycle Assoc changed its name to American Motorcyclist Assoc.

 

[targus]

What would you suggest as a name?

Why do you ask?

 

[Salty]

I just wonder why a bunch of white guys would have any interest or concern about what a black women's organization calls itself.

Bill gave an excellent answer in post # 9.

Personally, I have no problem what a group calls itself. But on the on the other hand, don't be upset, if I use that same term to identify you.

Same thing with a national group here in Central New York. The organization is called "ARC" which stands for "Association of Retarded Citizens" Yet, if I was to call one of the residents "retarded" I would be blasted for it.

That is why ARC, NAACP, Colored women, and ect should change their name.

Many years ago the Colored Methodist Church vote to change thee name to the Christian Methodist Church. At least they got it right.

(did you know that "CME" also stands for those faithful attenders who come every Christmas - Mothers Day - Easter :laugh: )
( a member of the local CME told me that! :thumbs


Salty

 

[Jerome]

National seems to be a popular option:

National Dental Association

National Economic Association

National Medical Association

National Brotherhood of Skiers

National Association of Mathematicians

National Bar Association

National Baptist Convention, USA

National Baptist Covention of America

 

[Salty]

National seems to be a popular option:

and what does that have to do with the OP?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Bill gave an excellent answer in post # 9.

Personally, I have no problem what a group calls itself. But on the on the other hand, don't be upset, if I use that same term to identify you.

Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. When a group turns around terms within their own group that have been used as hateful, it is not the same as an outsider using them. You got no dog in this one, Salty.

 

[billreber]

Originally Posted by Salty
Bill gave an excellent answer in post # 9.

Personally, I have no problem what a group calls itself. But on the on the other hand, don't be upset, if I use that same term to identify you.
And then Magnetic Poles said:

Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. When a group turns around terms within their own group that have been used as hateful, it is not the same as an outsider using them. You got no dog in this one, Salty.

But that IS the point! That comment reeks of "liberal-think" to me. If it is fine for person A to say something, then why is it wrong for person B to say it? And the reverse is also true. If it is wrong for A to say something, then why is it fine for B to say it? Isn't the word or phrase offensive no matter who says it? If so, then why is it okay for anybody to use the offensive word or phrase?

That is the thing that does not make any sense!

Bill :godisgood:

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Originally Posted by Salty
Bill gave an excellent answer in post # 9.

Personally, I have no problem what a group calls itself. But on the on the other hand, don't be upset, if I use that same term to identify you.
And then Magnetic Poles said:


But that IS the point! That comment reeks of "liberal-think" to me. If it is fine for person A to say something, then why is it wrong for person B to say it? And the reverse is also true. If it is wrong for A to say something, then why is it fine for B to say it? Isn't the word or phrase offensive no matter who says it? If so, then why is it okay for anybody to use the offensive word or phrase?

That is the thing that does not make any sense!

Bill :godisgood:

Think of it like this. You can call your brother a dummy, but anybody else best think twice.

 

[Salty]

That is the thing that does not make any sense!

Bill :godisgood:

You hit the nail on the head!! Some people* just do not have any sense!

I will let you'll guess who I am talking about :smilewinkgrin:

Salty

 

[JohnDeereFan]

A saw an announcement in the paper for an organization that will be meeting this week.

If you were part of it, would you make a motion to change the name?

Salty :saint:

I would. They should call themselves Hypocrites Inc.

 

[carpro]

A saw an announcement in the paper for an organization that will be meeting this week.

If you were part of it, would you make a motion to change the name?

Salty :saint:

I believe the name is not only correct, it's the one they want.

I'd leave it as it is and let the race baiters whine and grumble.