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Obama's "Thug's, (oops, I meant: Czar's...)

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. righteousdude2

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    An intelligent leader surrounds himself with intelligent and qualified advisors. Check out this list.

    Read who they are and realize what they want to do. An ounce of knowledge can't hurt ya!?!:BangHead:

    Richard Holbrooke - Afghanistan Czar Ultra liberal anti gun former Gov. of New Mexico. Pro-Abortion and legal drug use. Wants to dissolve the 2nd Amendment, Council of Foreign Relations member (Council strives for a one world government.) Bilderberg Meeting attendee. (For Bilderberg 2009 Meeting Agenda Info, see here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MAR20090526&articleId=13738 )

    Ed Montgomery - Auto recovery Czar Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.

    Jeffrey Crowley - AIDS Czar Radical Homosexual.. A Gay Rights activist. Believes in Gay Marriage and especially, a Special Status for homosexuals only, including complete free health care for gays.

    Alan Bersin - Border Czar The former failed superintendent of San Diego. Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno - to keep borders open to illegal's without interference from US.

    David J. Hayes - California Water Czar Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, "Progress Policy". No training or experience in water management whatsoever.

    Ron Bloom - Car Czar Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?

    Dennis Ross - Central Region Czar Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. Anti-gun and completely pro-abortion.

    Lynn Rosenthal - Domestic Violence Czar Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Anti-gun. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration.

    Gil Kerlikowske - Drug Czar Devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of all drugs.

    Paul Volcker - Economic Czar Head of Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy nearly failed Obama appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board which engineered the Obama economic disaster to US economy. Member of anti business "Progressive Policy" organization.

    Carol Brower - Energy and Environment Czar Political Radical Former head of EPA - known for anti-business activism. Strong anti-gun ownership.

    Joshua DuBois - Faith Based Czar Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism. Anti gun ownership lobbyist. .

    Cameron Davis - Great Lakes Czar Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member (what does that tell us?)

    **Van Jones - Green Jobs Czar (since resigned)... Black activist, Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party, Black activist with strong anti-white views.

    Daniel Fried - Guantanamo Closure Czar Human Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes terrorists have rights above and beyond Americans.

    Nancy-Ann DeParle - Health Czar Former head of Medicare/Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times. “…oversaw budget issues related to the Clinton health care plan, which pro-life advocates panned for promoting abortion and rationing of lifesaving medical care. But DeParle is no stranger to controversy related to abortion and refused to allow a state to limit taxpayer funding of abortions under its own health plan.” –LifeNews.com

    Vivek Kundra - Information Czar Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails. (hello?)

    Todd Stern - International Climate Czar Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supporter of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade—carbon taxing all US citizens. Blames US business for Global warming. Anti -US business prosperity.

    Dennis Blair - Intelligence Czar Retired Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as "provocative". Chair of ultra liberal "Council on Foreign Relations" which advocates and strives for a single global government.

    George Mitchell - Mideast Peace Czar Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into "2 or 3 " smaller more manageable plots". A true anti-gun & pro-homosexual "special rights" advocate .

    Kenneth Feinberg - Pay Czar Chief of Staff to the late TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 9-11 victims payoffs. (horribly true).

    Cass Sunstein - Regulatory Czar Liberal activist judge believes free speech needs to be limited for the "common good". Essentially against 1st amendment. Rules against personal freedoms many times -like private gun ownership and right to free speech. Pegged by Obama to be the next Supreme Court Justice after Ginsburg or Stevens step down in 2010 or 2011!! Read here: http://www.infowars.com/obamas-favo...stice-sunstein-wants-to-ban-guns-free-speech/ .

    John Holdren - Science Czar Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, a Eugenicist, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training. Co-Wrote the 1000+ page book, “EcoScience” wherein he wrote about mass sterilization programs needed in the U.S., sterilizing drugs in our water supply, and one child policy and forced abortion needed in the USA. (Read excerpts from actual scanned pages of his book here: http://www.infowars.com/obama-scien...rce-totalitarian-population-control-measures/ ).

    Earl Devaney - Stimulus Accountability Czar Spent his career trying to take guns away from American citizens. Believes in Open Borders to Mexico. Author of statement blaming US gun stores for drug war in Mexico.

    J. Scott Gration - Sudan Czar Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of Foreign Relations member (which seeks a single global government), asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations.

    Herb Allison - TARP Czar Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.

    John Brennan - Terrorism Czar Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military.

    Aneesh Chopra - Technology Czar No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company--a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist. Supports Obama Health Care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan.

    Adolfo Carrion Jr. - Urban Affairs Czar Puerto Rican born Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire "slum lord" of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from "sweetheart" deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes on middle class to pay for minority housing and health care.

    Ashton Carter - Weapons Czar Leftist. Wants all private weapons in US destroyed. Supports UN ban on firearms ownership in America .. No Other "policy".

    Gary Samore - WMD Policy Czar Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith [now we know where Obama is getting his idea to down size US Nukes]. Has no other "policy".

    How lucky are we that these are the people who are helping President Obama in the RUNNING of our country and the White House?
    ARE YOU MAD YET?
     
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  2. FR7 Baptist

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    You cite infowars.com for a source and expect people to take your posts seriously?
     
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    Could you please link sources for more than a couple of these folks? I would like to read more about the views of the folks. I appreciate the couple of links you did provide, but infowars is hardly an unbiased source even then.
     
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    How about you doing something constructive and googling for your self the accuracy and then posting your comments here instead of attacking the OP's credibility based upon the link related to a couple of characters in a long list of characters.

    ..............until you do your homework, your comment is less credible than the source which you attack.
     
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    The whole idea of "czars" is offensive and disturbing to me. Of all the dumb moves by GW Bush...the czar mania he engaged in might have been the worst. And, of course, Barry the Organizer has taken it to its far-left radical conclusion.

    Let's go ahead and get this out of the way: Obama's not the first to use this stupid end-around. But for those of you whose responses are, "but they did it first!" --guess what? We know. Sorry to disappoint you...but you'll have to come up with a better premise than, "well, Bush did it!"


    I'll agree with many of you that infowars isn't much of a reliable source. But common knowlege about several of these goons (Van Jones is a great example) illustrates some (or all) of the following possibilities:
    • The Community Organizer is a terrible judge of character. (which for me, personally, is one of the most important factors I use in voting for a presidential candidate)
    • The "moderate" image so carefully crafted for the Emporer is a masquerade. He is so much further to the left than many originally believed.
    • The Chosen One is completely enamored with the concept of a state that runs our lives, cradle to grave--telling us what to think, what to do, what to put our trust/faith in, and how to believe in the power of Government. That's scary.
    • The 'messiah' holds a special place in his heart for people who managed to go 30-40 years without holding a single private-sector job. Of course, since the market is the "enemy" to Obama...that would make perfect sense.
    • President Hopenchange doesn't trust the process put in place for appointees. Gee...I wonder why?
    • The One Who Makes Chills Run Down My Leg gets a complete and total free pass by the media he's in bed with. Can you imagine how apoplecticthe media would have gotten had Bush pulled this same stunt, to this same degree?
    I would make more points...but I've run out of synonyms for The Greatest President Who Ever Even Thought About Existing In This Dimension.
     
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    >Gil Kerlikowske - Drug Czar Devoted lobbyist for every restrictive gun law proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of all drugs.

    Stange that his anti-gun stance never made the press in Seattle.
     
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    Some of the descriptions are the writers interpretations of beliefs they hold, and are perhaps overstated.

    There is no doubt , however, that the Obama administration is loaded with far left radicals and activists, whose beliefs are far too extreme for the vast majority of Americans.
     
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    Now, there's a novel idea. :eek:
     
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    I like Dennis Ross. I love listening to him discuss foreign policy.

    I don't think that Dennis Blair has ever been chair of the CFR. I have been a subscriber to "Foreign Affairs" for years.
     
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    MESSAGE from Author of Post...

    It has been pointed out to me that there were some errors, i.e., Holbrook was not the Governor of NM. Also, the infowar site lacks credibility.

    I received this info from a fellow southern Cal pastor, and his info is usually very good, so I didn't take the usual time to check things out in more depth.

    This "blind faith" in a fellow believer in Jesus has caused a sting or two, and for any errors, or, poor back up "links," I apologize, HOWEVER, as you can clearly see, Obama did not do the homework needed when he put this list of Czar's together.

    In a way, his list of Czar's shines a bright light on his health-care plan. Both are filled with radical holes, and lacks credibility in the eyes of the general public.

    Most of his choices for Czar's are better "suited" for a 1920ish gang of Chicago hoods, led by Al Capone :laugh:

    Thanks for seeing this for what it is, a list of names of folks that wouldn't be on most POTUS lists.

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Or, sad to say, yet another unsubstantiated attack on our president.

    I still don't know why some think we have to go to these extremes to be critical of President Obama's policies. There are plenty of sound legitimate reasons to be critical of this administration without dredging the bottom of the cyber-barrel.
     
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    It Is Pure Truth, Not Unsibstantiated Attacks!

    Sorry C4K, you can't see that what is being posted is truth, not, lies. I do agree that they are "attacks". Attacks that expose Obama for what he is. And inexperienced president, but, a hard-core RADICAL, running this country into the ground. You tell me what he'll do when China holds its US Bond "garage/yard-sale" forcing our country to borrow money at interest rates your great-grandchildren's children will be working 60 hours a week to pepay?!?!?!?

    However, you do have the right to your opinions, and your views, and I am thankful that you have made this forum available for people like me, to post their views.

    Peace and Love to You,

    Pastor Paul
     
  13. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    All you have to do to substantiate them is to provide some substance in the way of links or references. Pretty simple.

    'Slobbering love affair with Obama' :grin; I am one of the most ardent, but realistic opponents of our president's policies on this forum. I agree that his policies have the potential to do great harm, I was saying that a year ago. I would simply rather use facts and maintain credibility instead of reposting every undocumented list of attacks that comes into my in box.

    Of course, red lettered, hugh, bolded, screaming posts filled with false statements about my views on the president are always one way to win a fight.

    Here is a simple opportunity to substantiate the list:

    Pick any five people and give documentation to support the charges in the list in proper context so we can discuss them.
     
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    You spend more time defending yourself than anything else.
     
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    I Presented Valid Info...

    ... the "proverbial" ball is now in your court, so, why don't you look up the links and info to show just how much of this post is "unsubstantiated". The fact that those named and the office they have been appointed to is public knowledge, so I suspect you question the little bio-graphical brief that is attached to each individuals name and position.

    My advise to you is: spend more time disproving this post, and others like it, and less time criticizing and spewing out words like, "Unsubstantiated."

    Will wait to hear what you find. And, if there are errors, I'll not be to embarrassed to apologize to you and the Board. However, I think you will find that there is a probability that this post is no less than 95% correct.

    Peace Brother, and Blessings to you as you dig in to demonstrate how much of this post is truly "Unsubstantiated!"

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    I guess that means you are not going to substantiate your claims?

    So what does that make those claims?

    'Nuff said :)
     
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    Substantiated

    Hey Roger... the ball is in your court. You are letting it lay, so, what does that say about you? Are you totally incapable of searching cyber-space to find what you need to disprove my post???? It looks like you want others to do your work.

    As for the post... I am satisfied with its contents as they are. If you aren't, oh, well, too bad, so sad! :tear: You and I are finished with this challenge. I challenged you, you are declining to show what you believe is "unsubstantiated". That makes you look weak, or, it sayd there is nothing behind your criticism.

    Funny, out of all the folks who've read this... you are the only one kicking sand, and throwing a "hissy-fit!" What does that say about you and your claim of my info being "unsubstantiated?"

    Let's stop the back-and-forth messaging. I'm not taking the bait, and you are persisting to make a claim that doesn't seem to phase me.

    MOVE ON !!!!!
     
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    Agreed. You made assertions that you can't/won't back up so there really is no debate.

    Beside, since you can yell louder than me you must be right :).

    I'm done.
     
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    Sorry, C4K...

    ... I didn't mean to "shout you down! Really...:laugh:

    I don't know if my friend got this right... but, I'm willing to trust him, or, where ever he got this from. I checked out 4 of the people [and Vonn was a gimme], and the info on them was right on. That is why I suggest you do your own check.
     
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