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Salty

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This lack of leadership ability has been my problem with President Obama since the campaign.

If this had been the focus during the campaign instead of whether or not he would take the oath on the Koran he might not be president today.

Actually, his lack of leadership was brought up, but it seemed the attention was put on Sara, that she had very little leadership, and even as Governor, it was only in a State of some 600 thousand (mind you, I did not intend to offend Alaska)

The whole campaign was based on change, other than health care, no specifics change was actually mentioned.

Exactly what does make a good leader

Salty
 

poncho

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Well, I just don't believe we can excuse the illegal killing of foreign nationals in their own homeland just because we don't put boots on the ground.

If we do, then we might as well just nuke 'em and go on about our business.

And I don't use the term "illegal" lightly. With Libya representing no danger to the security of this country and no Americans to protect, we shouldn't be there without congressional approval. We don't even know who we're fighting for. But we chose up sides and started killing anyhow.

The president must believe he is above the law. He should be impeached.


And I agree!
 

rbell

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I agree with what many have said...this guy pretty much has demonstrated how not to lead in a situation:

-keeps the Congress out of the loop
-can't coherently define the mission, objective, or end game
-tells everyone when we're quitting (!), and what we're NOT doing (why tell our enemies our plan??)
-doesn't realize how it looks to begin a military campaign while on vacation.

There's probably more, but that's a pretty representative list of non-leadership.
 

preachinjesus

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I've got to admit the Libyan action is confusing and seems to lack a coherent strategy. Other than making weapons suppliers richer (them cruise missiles are expensive) it doesn't seem to have a plan for what's next. That is never a good strategy when engaging a country.

Also, for a President who is reportedly a bringer of peace he is current overseeing three separate theaters of military action and has expanded our involvement militarily across the world. So much for that Nobel Prize I guess...

This action just brings up way too many questions (why not another humanitarian bombing in another country) and lacks any good answers. Maybe it is another nail in his electoral coffin.
 

rbell

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And, in more news, our Liar-in-chief keeps on keeping on...

There are apparently 2,200 US troops just off the coast of Libya. Now remember: There's "no way" they will be put in Libya on the ground. Obama said so. Here's a story about the ground troops that don't exist:

"No US ground forces in Libya...except these guys"--

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/262910/obama-no-us-forces-ground-libya-except-those-guys

They must be there to watch a soccer game.

Good grief, Obama...do you reckon you could slip up and tell the truth one time? What a piece of work you are...
 

rbell

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Peggy Noonan absolutely nails it:

"The Speech Obama Hasn't Given:"
(WALL_ST_JOURNAL_ARTICLE)

What was he thinking? What is he thinking?

Which gets me to Mr. Obama's speech, the one he hasn't given. I cannot for the life of me see how an American president can launch a serious military action without a full and formal national address in which he explains to the American people why he is doing what he is doing, why it is right, and why it is very much in the national interest. He referred to his aims in parts of speeches and appearances when he was in South America, but now he's home. More is needed, more is warranted, and more is deserved. He has to sit at that big desk and explain his thinking, put forward the facts as he sees them, and try to garner public support. He has to make a case for his own actions. It's what presidents do! And this is particularly important now, because there are reasons to fear the current involvement will either escalate and produce a lengthy conflict or collapse and produce humiliation.

get 'em!
 
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