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Texas school discipline

freeatlast

New Member
In a 55MPH zone, what speed should I be going? If you are one of these fools that go 45 in a 55, you need to be ticketed for obstructing traffic.

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire

That's nice and all, but I didn't call you a fool. Try answering the question instead of acting all high and mighty. What speed are you supposed to drive in a 55mph zone?
 

lilyvalley

New Member
One way they were taught is when their parents drive on our HWYS. In a 55 MPH zone they go 52 or 53 or 55. Or they come to a stop sign and do what is called a rolling stop instead of a full stop because no one is around.Or they see the light is turning red and speed up running the red and then complain when they a ticket from a camera. The child learns that rules do not mean what they are stated as being like you are suggesting and when they attend school they think they can live the same way and cry foul when punished. Irresponsible parenting has brought the problems on, not the rules. Now I agree that there has been some very bad over the top discipline done when some child has an infraction and does not know they were breaking it, but those are not the norm and in those cases where it is clear this has happened I agree it should all be dismissed, (but not because of grace, but since they were innocent) but rules need to be followed and irresponsible parents are the mostly the reason that their children get busted at school.

This is judgmental, and to be honest, really weird. 52 or 53 in a 55. Weird.
 

freeatlast

New Member
That's nice and all, but I didn't call you a fool. Try answering the question instead of acting all high and mighty. What speed are you supposed to drive in a 55mph zone?

Anything 55 or under as long as the under does not cause a safety issue. I usually stay 3 to 5 MPH under posted speed limits.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
Anything 55 or under as long as the under does not cause a safety issue. I usually stay 3 to 5 MPH under posted speed limits.

This is contrary to what you originally posted:

One way they were taught is when their parents drive on our HWYS. In a 55 MPH zone they go 52 or 53 or 55. Or they come to a stop sign and do what is called a rolling stop instead of a full stop because no one is around.Or they see the light is turning red and speed up running the red and then complain when they a ticket from a camera. The child learns that rules do not mean what they are stated as being like you are suggesting and when they attend school they think they can live the same way and cry foul when punished.

In your list of examples of a "child learns that rules do not mean what they are stated", you listed an example of breaking the rules as "In a 55 MPH zone they go 52 or 53 or 55".

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: [and] he that shutteth his lips [is esteemed] a man of understanding.
 

NiteShift

New Member
Granted that too many nit-picky rules are enforced while serious matters are ignored. For example, in the schools that my kids attended there was an instance where 3 students jumped one boy and beat him outside during gym class and nothing was ever done about it. The teacher knew and didn't take action. There were students who were regularly told to get out of the classroom because they were causing disturbances, and then walked around in the hallway loudly cursing the teacher. Again without any consequences. No action was taken for fear of offending certain pressure groups, "community activists", or just plain fear period. So it appears to me to be a case of enforcing minor infractions while ignoring "the weightier matters of the law" because that way they appear to be cracking down when it's not really the case.
 
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