All the red states but Texas are freeloaders

[billwald]

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...79.85218.jUdw2l&rd=1&src=newsletter744089&t=9

"Red states, by and large, are moochers. They can't sustain themselves. If California were to secede, the state would have a balanced budget (or nearly balanced.) If Alabama were to secede, it wouldn't be able to pay for its stop signs."


Nice chart, I'm sure it will not format.

 

[Revmitchell]

California cannot afford to do anything. They are broke because of excessive taxes and spending.

 

[Scarlett O.]

"Red states, by and large, are moochers. They can't sustain themselves. If California were to secede, the state would have a balanced budget (or nearly balanced.) If Alabama were to secede, it wouldn't be able to pay for its stop signs."


Nice chart, I'm sure it will not format.

Gosh, Bill. I read through all of the comments.

I had NO idea that people in the northern states held that much contempt for those of us living below the Mason-Dixon line.

That was kind of hurtful to read.

 

[Oldtimer]

Now, the standard and safe response to calls for secession from the Right is to toe the President's line that we are one people and one nation, not two Americas but a United States of America. That's a great line. But it's not really true. It's not true culturally or even geographically. The same free-state vs slave-state divide that has existed since the founding of this nation is still more or less with us today, in almost the same geographic locations.

Evidently this fellow either doesn't know history or he can't read a map. Maybe both.


BTW, this fellow doesn't know much about California, either.

California may face the nation’s largest budget deficit at $16 billion. It may struggle with the nation’s second-highest unemployment rate at 10.6 percent. It will soon vote whether to levy the nation’s highest income and sales taxes, as if to encourage others to join the 2,000-plus high earners who are leaving the state each week. The new taxes will be our way of saying, “Good riddance.” And if California is home to one-third of the nation’s welfare recipients and the largest number of illegal aliens, it is nonetheless apparently happy and thus solidly for Obama, by a +24 percent margin in the latest Field poll. The unemployment rate in my hometown is 16 percent, the per capita income is $16,000 — and I haven’t seen a Romney sticker yet. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/329772/bankrupt-california-victor-davis-hanson

 

[Winman]

There are many factors as to why one state receives more than another. This from a related article.

Utah vs. New Mexico: Top and bottom

Consider that the Beehive State is a desert state with its share of high-tech firms, sagebrush, and fewer than 3 million residents. So is New Mexico. Yet Utah ranks last in the ranking of federal largess, while New Mexico is perennially near the top.

In a news article about its thin slice of federal pie, the Deseret Morning News in Salt Lake City attributes the difference partly to Utah’s relatively young population, so there are fewer Social Security checks and Medicare payments than most states have.

Also, the economy there hasn’t been hit as hard by recession, so a rise in jobless benefits nationwide last year didn’t show up as much of a trend in places like Provo. New Mexico, by contrast, gets an outsize share of procurement contracts and federal salaries – many tied to Energy Department labs in the state.

This post and the article it was taken from just prove the old proverb;

Numbers don't lie, but liars use numbers

 

[LadyEagle]

Gosh, Bill. I read through all of the comments.

I had NO idea that people in the northern states held that much contempt for those of us living below the Mason-Dixon line.

That was kind of hurtful to read.

Scarlett, it's liberals that have the contempt.

 

[Arbo]

Cut California loose, but give RDude asylum.

 

[LadyEagle]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Aaron]

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...79.85218.jUdw2l&rd=1&src=newsletter744089&t=9

"Red states, by and large, are moochers. They can't sustain themselves. If California were to secede, the state would have a balanced budget (or nearly balanced.) If Alabama were to secede, it wouldn't be able to pay for its stop signs."


Nice chart, I'm sure it will not format.

...said the chief freeloader on the BB. :laugh::laugh:

 

[billwald]

>Consider that the Beehive State is a desert state with its share of high-tech firms, sagebrush, and fewer than 3 million residents. So is New Mexico. Yet Utah ranks last in the ranking of federal largess, while New Mexico is perennially near the top.

Arizona has about 10 times more Indian People than Utah. This, alone, might greatly effect the federal payment balance.

Or is your point that the US could solve our budget problem if we all joined the LDS?

 

[Oldtimer]

Here's a break down of the voting by county.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/

If this doesn't automatically display the county breakdown, click on the link provided on the states page.

Notice the distribution of the blue & red.

Draw your own conclusions.