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Joe Scarborough: Republicans Can Pass Gun Control Or Lose House In 2 Years (VIDEO)

Salty

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I disagree - 2 years is a lifetime in political life.
Most folks will forget about it.
Unless there are more such incidents - and then the Republicians will be able to claim that new gun laws do not help.
 

Crabtownboy

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I disagree - 2 years is a lifetime in political life.

I agree that two years is a very long time in politics.


Most folks will forget about it.

You may be right. I am not sure. I do believe Sandy Hook was a watershed moment for many people.

Unless there are more such incidents - and then the Republicans will be able to claim that new gun laws do not help.

Sadly, I expect there will be more. People on both sides can claim the gun laws did not help or can argue it would have been worse without them. I doubt it can be proved either way. It will come down to the perception of the voters. If their perception is the Republicans are wrong it will only marginalize the GOP further to the fringe and will cost them dearly. It will be a hard sell. For the staunch GOP supporter it could well be another case of refusing to believe the reality of the issue. Time and events will tell.

I believe this last incident pushed many people over the edge on this topic. I also believe that the shooting at Columbine is what set the topic firmly in the minds of many and that the shooting in Connecticut brought many people to the point of "enough already".

Frankly I do not know what the correct answer is as there are already so many guns in the hands of so many in the US. I see no need for assault weapons as they are only for killing, not hunting. Hunting rifles, shotguns are a different subject in my view.



Here is a timeline on school killings in the US.

December 14, 2012: A gunman at a Connecticut elementary school killed more than two dozen people, including children, on Friday. Here is a look at some other recent school shootings:

-- April 2, 2012: A gunman killed seven people in a rampage at a California Christian university. Jongjin Kim, the Oikos University, said the suspect, One Goh, was angry because administrators refused to grant him a full tuition refund after he dropped out of the nursing program.

-- Feb. 27, 2012: Three students were killed and two wounded in a shooting spree that started in a school cafeteria in Chardon, Ohio, as students waited for buses to other schools. Police have charged T.J. Lane, who was 17 at the time, as an adult.

-- Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Ill., fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.

-- April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, fatally shot 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then killed himself.

-- Oct. 2, 2006: Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, shot to death five girls at West Nickel Mines Amish School in Pennsylvania, then killed himself.

-- March 21, 2005: Jeffrey Weise, 16, shot and killed five schoolmates, a teacher and an unarmed guard at a high school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota before taking his own life. Weise had earlier killed his grandfather and his grandfather's companion.

-- Oct. 28, 2002: Robert Flores Jr., 41, who was flunking out of the University of Arizona nursing school, shot and killed three of his professors before killing himself.

-- March 5, 2001: Charles "Andy" Williams, 15, killed two fellow students and wounded 13 others at Santana High School in Santee, Calif.

-- April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library.

-- May 21, 1998: Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when Kip Kinkel, 17, opened fire at a high school in Springfield, Ore., after killing his parents.

Read more: http://www.myfoxla.com/story/20348280/timeline-deadliest-school-shootings-in-the-us#ixzz2IEYPXiOq
 

Bob Alkire

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Weren't we saying after the Bobby Kennedy killing that we needed to do pass laws to make owning a gun more difficult and register all of our guns?
Even old cowboy stars like Rex Allen did away with all of his guns. After a while the media found something else to push and it all cool down. Keep in mind the news business is a lot like education, as a news person or as a professor, you are no one until you publish something new and or something that puts down the old.
 

TCassidy

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The last Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994. In November of 1994 the Democrats lost the election.

Two years might be a long time for the memory of most Americans but Politicians have memories like elephants! They will remember the formula: Vote for AWB = lose next election.


Politicians are nothing if not pragmatic.
 

mont974x4

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Why do liberals keep insisting that the GOP needs to become more like them in order to win elections? This fails the common sense test. They need to court the conservatives if they want to win back the voters they've lost. We're staying home, we're voting 3rd party, and we're disgusted with the GOP acting like liberals.
 

Aaron

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Earth Wind and Fire

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The last Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994. In November of 1994 the Democrats lost the election.

Two years might be a long time for the memory of most Americans but Politicians have memories like elephants! They will remember the formula: Vote for AWB = lose next election.


Politicians are nothing if not pragmatic.

Up here in New Jersey.... they have purdy much limited any form of weapon except a shotgun & a baseball bat. Its the criminals who have the handguns and rifles. Iffin you ever can catch some of these politicians (who probably service the criminal more than the citizenry), you let me know. I could show them the proper use of my Grand Slam, Flame Tempered Louisville Slugger.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Violent crime has decreased since the assault weapons ban was lifted. No liberal will acknowledge this. Perhaps C.T.Boy wants wants more children to die.
 
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