Has Obama really brought about good change, or bad change. You be the judge. Take the poll!
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Your View of Obama?
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NaasPreacher (C4K)
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I didn't vote in the poll because of the very black and white nature of the choices, but will express my view.
I have never been afraid that the president was a closet Muslim, that he was born in Kenya, or that he was a Marxist whose goal was to destroy America.
From the time I first heard him speak in 2006 I was concerned that he was a suave communicator who was a puppet of the Daly machine and had no leadership skills. I felt he would be president one day, but thought it would be 2016.
He has proven that he is a suave communicator and he has proven that he has no leadership ability. At least President Clinton had the pragmatic ability to lead by poll. President Obama doesn't even have that ability.
I am not so sure about a connection to the Daly Machine connection now. I think if he were controlled by them he would have accomplished more for good or bad. His one focus in the last 5 years has been Obamacare and even that has failed. He has accomplished nothing of substance.
I was a bit surprised at the ease with which he won in 2012, but suspect it is because GOP didn't offer much of a substantial difference and there was a 'don't change horses' mindset.
His social agenda has been obvious. His only leadership has to been to render support to movements that had been struggling for recognition for decades. Those causes have added to America's moral corruption and fall.
In response to the question my response is that he has been a example of failure of leadership and America is worse off after five years of his failure to lead.
The problem is I don't see anyone out there who has the ability to lead that will be required in 2017.
I have never been afraid that the president was a closet Muslim, that he was born in Kenya, or that he was a Marxist whose goal was to destroy America.
From the time I first heard him speak in 2006 I was concerned that he was a suave communicator who was a puppet of the Daly machine and had no leadership skills. I felt he would be president one day, but thought it would be 2016.
He has proven that he is a suave communicator and he has proven that he has no leadership ability. At least President Clinton had the pragmatic ability to lead by poll. President Obama doesn't even have that ability.
I am not so sure about a connection to the Daly Machine connection now. I think if he were controlled by them he would have accomplished more for good or bad. His one focus in the last 5 years has been Obamacare and even that has failed. He has accomplished nothing of substance.
I was a bit surprised at the ease with which he won in 2012, but suspect it is because GOP didn't offer much of a substantial difference and there was a 'don't change horses' mindset.
His social agenda has been obvious. His only leadership has to been to render support to movements that had been struggling for recognition for decades. Those causes have added to America's moral corruption and fall.
In response to the question my response is that he has been a example of failure of leadership and America is worse off after five years of his failure to lead.
The problem is I don't see anyone out there who has the ability to lead that will be required in 2017.
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Honest REsponse - KUDOS!
That is an honest response...and I totally agree. He has made a laughing stock of the USA, but the GP is at fault for having no real answers in leadership or response/rebuttal to his policies!
He could easily be the heart and soul of a revolution in this country as it is divided and polarized more than I remember it ever being!
Thanks for your views. They were unexpected, but appreciated as I know you see things from the otherside of where I stand! Shalom! :thumbsup:
That is an honest response...and I totally agree. He has made a laughing stock of the USA, but the GP is at fault for having no real answers in leadership or response/rebuttal to his policies!
He could easily be the heart and soul of a revolution in this country as it is divided and polarized more than I remember it ever being!
Thanks for your views. They were unexpected, but appreciated as I know you see things from the otherside of where I stand! Shalom! :thumbsup:
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Not sure about the reason for surprise. I have never been a supporter of the president, I just find the fringe ideas about him and the name-calling needless and distracting from his real problems.
But he is the president and all Americans, and indeed the rest of the world, have to live with that and deal with it till Jan 2017.
I just don't have much hope for then among the current crop of potentials from either party.
Revolution or any kind of armed rebellion would be incredibly destructive and America would been dead and buried in a balkanised North America of who knows how many new nation states. His lack of leadership should not lead anyone to take such a foolish step.
The best thing is to do is to strive to limit the effects of his poor leadership and wait out the next three years.
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Identifying Obama as Marxist is not name calling. It is stating facts. You have to know what you dealing with and the nature of it. His mentor was an avowed Marxist. He has a long history of fellowship with Marxists. And yes that is very helpful to know.
It is not just poor leadership that he has done so much damage. It is his very extreme political nature that has cause the problem.This was never made more evident when he said pubically that ""That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want." Obama is an extremist. He despises the founding of this country and the Constitution because it interferes with his agenda. He refuses to enforce laws that he does not like and writes laws all by himself that he cannot convince congress to give him. He is an immoral person pushing for the degradation of our country by pushing immoral and ungodly lifestyles on the American people. He is inept at foreign policy. He literally does want to diminish the influence and power of the US in the world. Part of his Marxist ideology.
Venezuela would love him.
It is not just poor leadership that he has done so much damage. It is his very extreme political nature that has cause the problem.This was never made more evident when he said pubically that ""That's the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want." Obama is an extremist. He despises the founding of this country and the Constitution because it interferes with his agenda. He refuses to enforce laws that he does not like and writes laws all by himself that he cannot convince congress to give him. He is an immoral person pushing for the degradation of our country by pushing immoral and ungodly lifestyles on the American people. He is inept at foreign policy. He literally does want to diminish the influence and power of the US in the world. Part of his Marxist ideology.
Venezuela would love him.
Oh! And no one opposes Obama because he is black.
thisnumbersdisconnected
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As to the first two, neither did I. As to the last, however, his "governance" is directly out of the socialist/Marxist playbook.
Agreed, with the exception that as his lies have become bigger, his communication skills have disappeared. Why? Because he won't talk to anyone but controlled audiences. Uncontrolled audiences uncomfortably remind the nation that this man is not what he wants to appear to be. One cannot hide a secret agenda in such limelight, and his is becoming obvious.
Mostly bad, while rewarding his keepers, and living up to the Marxist agenda to which he has sworn allegiance since trying to psychologically replace his dad with one of the biggest Marxists ever to reveal himself in the U.S., Frank Marshall Davis.
Or, as is beginning to pop out into the light of day, he stole the election through massive fraud. Or someone did on his behalf, and he may not even have known about it. I was struck by a video clip I saw on Monday before the election. There was a tear in his eye and his speech carried a tone of resignation and "farewell." Then, suddenly, 24 hours later, he's a winner again. Voter mindset doesn't change overnight like that. Something else happened.
Agreed.
There are a few. They aren't being mentioned for serious consideration, however. More's the pity.
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Exactly. And Putin does. That's why he saw fit to snatch Crimea from Ukraine.
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Never mind......
Not voting for President Obama, I clearly have some disagreements with him about policy, governance and the like. That hasn't changed, my disagreements still remain. History will determine if he has been a quality president or not, but in my opinion, it isn't exactly a shining example of progress.
Considering the many ways in which Obama and his co-horts have blatantly destroyed almost every good thing there ever was about our nation's values, I am compelled to apologize to President Jimmy Carter because President he is no longer the worst President that this country has ever had.
The person who NOW occupies the White House MOST CERTAINLY IS!! .....(Sigh :tear:!!)....
The person who NOW occupies the White House MOST CERTAINLY IS!! .....(Sigh :tear:!!)....
The question comes to mind of "revolution" by whom against whom.
If you are speaking of armed revolution, at least by any large group, I think that is an unlikely scenario.
However I can tell you this, when the government decides they can enter the homes of law abiding private citizens to seize their guns, people will begin to die.
Just as the American revolution and the Texas revolution were actually set off by the British and the Mexicans attempting to take guns from their colonists, it could have dreadful results now.
I don't think the anti gun faction realizes how deeply ingrained our 2ND amendment rights are in so many Americans.
Finally, could there be a revolution? Only if Obama tries to seize total control of the government. And he won't do that until he disarms the public.
Unlikely, at best.
Pretty much sums it up. I can't WAIT until the nightmare is over.