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  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    The flyer stated that new state laws require nurses to hold a “short 5 minute private conversation with your child.”

    Duffy asked if she could opt out of the policy, but the receptionist explained that it was mandatory. Needless to say, Duffy was not pleased. The situation got even more absurd when the office manager described what exactly they would be speaking to her daughter about. She wrote on her blog:


    She said there was a new policy that would allow a child to access his/her medical records online and the child would be allowed to block a parent from viewing the website. The nurse would also inform my children that the doctor’s office is a safe place for them to receive information about STDs, HIV and birth control. That is what the nurse would be chatting about with my children without any pesky parental oversight.

    Duffy then refused to let anyone speak with her daughter privately and insisted that she would, indeed, be opting out of the policy – whether they liked it or not.
    After describing her experience, which some might describe as an overreaction to a well-intended law, she went on to explain why she so adamantly refused to comply:
    Make sure this is crystal clear: what they want to do is talk to your child about sex and drugs (maybe rock and roll – who knows?) without your input. Is it really such a stretch to imagine that a doctor who does not value abstinence before marriage would encourage your daughters – as young as 12! – to receive birth control? Is it really such a stretch to imagine a nurse telling a young boy – because a 12 year old boy is a BOY – that she will give him condoms so he can be “safe”? Is this what you want told to your children without the ability to filter the info through your world view?
    Duffy ended by saying this:

    I am the Mom. I will pick who can talk to my kids about sex and drugs. And rock-n-roll for that matter.

    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/144...ies-pull-daughter-aside-private-conversation/
     
  2. Gina B

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    Yeah, well good luck to her with that, because now when the word goes out to social service workers, it will be twisted into how this poor child is being watched over by a parent who fears allowing the child to interact with other adults without the parent present to supervise what the child says. The child will likely be forcefully interrogated alone, without the parents, multiple times, over the coming years, to ensure the parents understand who the real boss is.

    That said, as a parent and someone who worked with teenagers for far too long, I practically threw my children in the room with their doctor and said "if there's anything you want to talk about, this is your chance!" Because no matter how close people think their teens are to them, most would fall over if they heard what they say and text to their friends and such and everyone who is sitting here reading this and thinking they are the exception are the ones who are most likely the ones who would be most shocked.

    And with ALL that said, it's to the point where you may as well just hand your newborns over to the government if you're going to bother having them anymore. With the government invading the home school process, the doctors office, travel, food, coming to homes, I'm starting to wonder if it may be time to consider whether it is irresponsible for believers to reproduce. Perhaps it's time to stop and just witness until the whole deal implodes. Feels like that anyhow...
     
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    More like "God speed." The mother did right, and we must back her.
     
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    Oh, she has my full support on this. It's just that in the world we live in, is that really much comfort to people who are regularly realizing that the battle for their children's souls are lost to the other side as parents realize they aren't allowed to raise their own children in Christ?

    I really have little faith that in cases like this, the government won't find a way to reach the child. That's why I say "good luck with that," though my heart's cry is that every child is allowed to be properly raised by their parent/caregiver the way that parents/caregiver sees appropriate. Sometimes that isn't for Christ though...it's still their right. Still needs defended the same.
     
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    I wouldn't know how to do that, since the appropriate abbreviation is HIPAA. Next time, read your own URL.
    Regardless, this is completely, totally, and utterly irrelevant. Parents have the final say regarding their children's healthcare, and HIPAA doesn't say anything different. Not yet, anyway.
    And there you go again, using a "source" that is proven to be highly error prone, getting 60% of company information wrong, and having over 100 errors in 90% of their entries. Use real research, please, and stop going to this bogus site. It's less reliable than Snopes is as a "debunker," which is to say, it's a joke.
     
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    For heavens sake, stop whining and complaining and do some of research. :BangHead:
     
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    I have. You're the one who needs to read it. I've started a thread on it so as to avoid derailing this thread, which is what you are fond of doing when you have no legitimate argument against an opinion.
     
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    My daughter was 21 years old when she was diagnosed with a pancreatic tumor and not once did any doctor ask to see her alone through any of it. She was in 2 hospitals, one of them twice, had surgery, was getting sicker, needed further treatment (PICC line and TPA) and yet her father and I were involved in every.single.decision that needed to be made.

    You can ask my kids anything you want - with me in there. When the girls went to the gynecologist on their own after age 20, I had them go by themselves so they could talk to the doctor about whatever they wanted but I offered to go with them if they wanted to. Neither one are sexually active but were OK with going on their own. :) Trust me, we really don't hide things around here.
     
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    I looked, but I cannot find anything in there that related to minor children.
    Will you please link to where that is? In the first link, I went to section 45, I think. I believe I read all of the second link.

    The only time I dealt with any issue of privacy was when this first started and my one daughter was only a few years old. A nurse called and refused to talk to me and cited HIPPA policy, and would only speak to my daughter, who not only would not have understood how her cardiology stuff was going, but couldn't have relayed her needs to me after the call. LOL I ended up having to call back and talk to someone else, who spoke to the poor gal and explained that HIPPA didn't apply to minors. That still amuses me...I don't know what the woman was thinking to try to talk to a toddler on the phone, even after I explained the child's age to her!

    Now if that changed, or if it ever was different for older kids, I don't know. I'd like to, but I'm not seeing it. Is it in there?
     
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    There is a bit about minor children in 45 CFR 164.502(g) [CFR=Code of Federal Regulations]

     
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    Thanks Crabby!
     
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    They do not get to speak to my children privately. Period.
     
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    And you won't, because he's a liar.

    You're talking to the guy who, a few months ago, posted an entire page of "links," many of which were not even viable, and none of which were relevant to his "point," much less proved anything regarding it.
     
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