Is this the same as sleeping with your neighbor?

[righteousdude2]

Let's say you look out your window one sunny afternoon and spot your neighbor with his shirt off and in bathing trunks, washing his car. Along with him is the shapely wife in an ultra string type, two piec,e bikini, helping him!

If you are a woman, and you look at the male -OR- you are a man and look at the female with some lustful thoughts running across your mind, but quickly put those thoughts to rest by sending them off in an honest attempt to flee the thoughts that come to mind .....

Then the following Saturday, the same scenario plays out before your eyes, and once again, the thoughts flood your mind and heart, and this time; you pull a chair up to the window and entertain some thoughts about how smoking hot the male/female is ....

Let's say on the third Saturday afternoon, this same husband and wife are repeating the show for the entertainment of anyone desiring to watch, and this time, even though you flee the lust and temptation to watch as long as you did the week before, now you can't get the image out of your mind over the next week, and you eagerly look forward to the following Saturday, or another activity by the couple to feed your desires for eye candy.

Once you determine that their manner of public dress is causing you to stumble, how would you personally handle the situation to keep from doing what David did when he looked upon a naked Bathsheba while she soaked up the rays on her rooftop. A viewing party that finally saw David inviting her over for an afternoon of adultery delight?

When does the above scenario become a sin that needs your attention and the help of God to overthrow to keep you Holy in His sight?

And, how would you go about making sure you do not continue to fall into this pit of sexual lust and visual cheating on your spouse? Would you talk with your neighbors about their manner of dress and ask them to quit displaying so much flesh? Or would you paint your access window black? Is short, what would you do to protect your witness and holiness for Jesus???

 

[Deacon]

Real life - - - if any of my neighborhood women wore a string bikini I'd probably want to scratch my eyes out. I live in an old neighborhood. :tongue3:

I work in the medical field, nudity is not uncommon.

Let me tell you that from personal experience, most people look better with as much clothes on as they can comfortably wear.

Rob

 

[convicted1]

A fellow told me this one time.....if you are driving along and happen to see a woman in the buff, it's not a sin. However, if you back up and take another look.....


The eyes are the gateway to the soul, or similiar to an old saying.....


It's not a sin to see someone in a bikini, but if you ponder and/or stare enough, it could lead to sinful thoughts. And sinful thoughts can get you nowhere good...

 

[Sapper Woody]

To answer your questions, it's a sin as soon as you desire the thoughts, and do not take measures to rid yourself of them.

Now, the spiritual answer to what would one do to get rid of the temptation, is anything it takes. Even up to moving away. A realistic answer is harder to come by. Personally, I think I would make my wife aware of the temptation and have her help me to resist it.

 

[righteousdude2]

Or ....

To answer your questions, it's a sin as soon as you desire the thoughts, and do not take measures to rid yourself of them.

Now, the spiritual answer to what would one do to get rid of the temptation, is anything it takes. Even up to moving away. A realistic answer is harder to come by. Personally, I think I would make my wife aware of the temptation and have her help me to resist it.

.... vice versa! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Rolfe]

What...No poll?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What...No poll?

Ah ha ha ha:laugh:

 

[Rolfe]

Ah ha ha ha:laugh:

And that was before my morning caffeine fix. :laugh:

 

[padredurand]

And, how would you go about making sure you do not continue to fall into this pit of sexual lust and visual cheating on your spouse? Would you talk with your neighbors about their manner of dress and ask them to quit displaying so much flesh? Or would you paint your access window black? Is short, what would you do to protect your witness and holiness for Jesus???

Go to Home Depot or grocery shopping. A person has no place going next door and telling the neighbor what they should or should not wear while washing the car, mowing the lawn or sitting on the deck. The problem isn't what they are wearing but the response to it. Do you have to paint over the window? If that's what it takes.

"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Matthew 5:27-28 NASB

 

[Rolfe]

Fences make for good neighbors. So do curtains.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

When does the above scenario become a sin that needs your attention and the help of God to overthrow to keep you Holy in His sight?

As others have said, when the thoughts led to lust or other temptation. Temptation is not noticing the woman in the bikini. Temptation is pulling the chair up in front of the window to stare.

And, how would you go about making sure you do not continue to fall into this pit of sexual lust and visual cheating on your spouse?

Take it to God, ask Him to remove my desires for anyone other than my wife, and trust that it is done.

Because it is.

 

[Scarlett O.]

......to keep from doing what David did when he looked upon a naked Bathsheba while she soaked up the rays on her rooftop. A viewing party that finally saw David inviting her over for an afternoon of adultery delight......

I fear you don't have the story straight, RD2. :flower:

Here you go.

From 2 Samuel 11 -

It happened in the spring of the year, at the time when kings go out to battle, that David sent Joab and his servants with him, and all Israel; and they destroyed the people of Ammon and besieged Rabbah. But David remained at Jerusalem. Then it happened one evening that David arose from his bed and walked on the roof of the king’s house. And from the roof he saw a woman bathing, and the woman was very beautiful to behold. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And someone said, “Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?” Then David sent messengers, and took her; and she came to him, and he lay with her, for she was cleansed from her impurity ; and she returned to her house. And the woman conceived; so she sent and told David, and said, “I am with child.”

 

[Scarlett O.]

If my neighbor were a handsomely built man [in my eyes] and he were washing his car one day in swim trunks and no shirt and I saw him through the window, I would simple draw the shade. Or better yet and even easier, I would go into another room and find something constructive to do and would pray away any stray thoughts.

It really is that simple.

But let's go so far as to say that his swim trunks are Speedos. And with him washing the car, they are tight and wet.

My response would be the same. It may take a little more concerted effort to walk away or pull the shades and I may have to start whistling "Bringing in the Sheaves" to myself, but it's a choice we all make.

We are either going to give in to wrongful thoughts and ideas or we will walk away from them.

For some people - both men and women - issues like these are strongholds and they have to fight harder. But greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world.

Grow a spiritual spine. Cling to Christ.

 

[padredurand]

For some people - both men and women - issues like these are strongholds and they have to fight harder. But greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world.

Grow a spiritual spine. Cling to Christ.

If BB had a Like button I would click it. If BB had a Stand Up and Applaud button I would click that too. :thumbs:

 

[righteousdude2]

And what part of my David did you not agree with?

I fear you don't have the story straight, RD2. :flower:

Here you go.

From 2 Samuel 11 -

:wavey: :thumbs: :type:

 

[Aaron]

A viewing party that finally saw David inviting her over for an afternoon of adultery delight?

Doesn't the realization that this would never happen, and that even if you were willing, SHE wouldn't be, kinda take the fun out it? So why bother?

Anyway, didn't you write a book about overcoming this kind of thing??

 

[righteousdude2]

wow

Doesn't the realization that this would never happen, and that even if you were willing, SHE wouldn't be, kinda take the fun out it? So why bother?

Anyway, didn't you write a book about overcoming this kind of thing??

I thought hate speech wasn't allowed on the board I need not say any more, I refuse to converse with people filled with vile...

 

[kyredneck]

....ah get over it, look at Aaron, he ain't so hot himself....

 

[Aaron]

What do you mean? Look at my finely chiseled features!

 

[gb93433]

Let me tell you that from personal experience, most people look better with as much clothes on as they can comfortably wear.

You are so right. When I look at my wife at my age no one else compares. Over the years there are people who have come up to us and think she is my daughter. She is four years younger. We play tennis quite often and I often ride a bicycle about 25 miles per day.