Obama to announce 'executive action' on immigration after elections

[poncho]

I'm wondering why you bother to check.

When asked to provide sources to back up what you say, you steadfastly refuse to do so.

So I'm wondering why any of us bother to post any sources at all. You seem to be exempt. Maybe we all should be.

According to the mainstream consensus there's only two "credible" types of sources, corporate sources and government sources. Of course they're joined at the hip now so there's really only one source of "credible" information.

GovCorp Inc. And it's pressitute media. Of course we have a choice between two flavors there's a flavor for lefties and a flavor for righties but it's all controlled by GovCorp Inc.

 

[InTheLight]

When asked to provide sources to back up what you say, you steadfastly refuse to do so.

Well, I'm still waiting for a link from CMG that connects the refusal to stop planes from Africa with the Mexican immigration problem.

 

[Use of Time]

I'm wondering why you bother to check.

When asked to provide sources to back up what you say, you steadfastly refuse to do so.

So I'm wondering why any of us bother to post any sources at all. You seem to be exempt. Maybe we all should be.

I check because as you can tell (like this thread for example), there is usually more than meets the eye on threads that get posted here. I've only started one thread in my posting history and I posted backup. Have you asked me to backup something recently and I let you down? Don't remember that.

 

[poncho]

Well, I'm still waiting for a link from CMG that connects the refusal to stop planes from Africa with the Mexican immigration problem.

I'm still waiting for proof that Russia invaded Ukraine.

 

[carpro]

I check because as you can tell (like this thread for example), there is usually more than meets the eye on threads that get posted here. I've only started one thread in my posting history and I posted backup. Have you asked me to backup something recently and I let you down? Don't remember that.

Not recently.

I stopped asking when you refused the first 2 or 3 times. I understood you considered yourself exempt. So now, in return, I don't go out of my way to prove anything to you.

It doesn't really matter whether or not it is a thread you start. If you make a statement as factual and are called upon to back it up, you should be able to do that. When you began to post here, the times I asked, you used the old "prove a negative" gambit. I told you at the time that was dishonest and your credibility with me dropped a bunch at that point and is one of the things at the root of our mutual dislike of each other.

 

[Use of Time]

Not recently.

I stopped asking when you refused the first 2 or 3 times. I understood you considered yourself exempt. So now, in return, I don't go out of my way to prove anything to you.

It doesn't really matter whether or not it is a thread you start. If you make a statement as factual and are called upon to back it up, you should be able to do that. When you began to post here, the times I asked, you used the old "prove a negative" gambit. I told you at the time that was dishonest and your credibility with me dropped a bunch at that point and is one of the things at the root of our mutual dislike of each other.

When have you asked me for a link? Are you completely innocent of this?

 

[carpro]

When have you asked me for a link?

It happened. More than once. You know it did. In return, I don't feel under any obligation to provide you with anything.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

 

[Use of Time]

It happened. More than once. You know it did. In return, I don't feel under any obligation to provide you with anything.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

So nothing. Funny how that works. :laugh:

 

[church mouse guy]

"...The Obama administration will not genuinely try to slow pandemic Ebola despite the danger to American lives because to do so Obama would have to abandon his promises to decree amnesty for illegal aliens and drop any push for immigration reform amnesty. Obama would have to stop his administration's Constitution and law violating practice of encouraging illegal immigrants to enter the US and then imitating the smuggler operations that brought them to our borders when he takes the illegals to the American heartlands for dispersal...."

http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2014/10/obama-wont-sacrifice-immigration-reform.html

Obama wants to keep the USA a country without borders so that the Democrats can appeal to the rich with hopelessly cheap labor and meanwhile convert the USA to a one-party state based upon Hispanic/Catholic voters allied with blacks, gays, and Jews along with the remnant of organized labor and funded by the wealth of organized labor.

 

[Use of Time]

"...The Obama administration will not genuinely try to slow pandemic Ebola despite the danger to American lives because to do so Obama would have to abandon his promises to decree amnesty for illegal aliens and drop any push for immigration reform amnesty. Obama would have to stop his administration's Constitution and law violating practice of encouraging illegal immigrants to enter the US and then imitating the smuggler operations that brought them to our borders when he takes the illegals to the American heartlands for dispersal...."

http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2014/10/obama-wont-sacrifice-immigration-reform.html

Obama wants to keep the USA a country without borders so that the Democrats can appeal to the rich with hopelessly cheap labor and meanwhile convert the USA to a one-party state based upon Hispanic/Catholic voters allied with blacks, gays, and Jews along with the remnant of organized labor and funded by the wealth of organized labor.

So ebola has reached the status of pandemic now?

 

[church mouse guy]

So ebola has reached the status of pandemic now?

I don't know how you define pandemic or what exactly is your definition of the word.

I know that I dislike coming into contact with people from West Africa from time to time here at the crossroads of America.

Various posters asked for a link to the GOP opinion that the failure to use a travel ban from West Africa is linked to the scheduled December 25 Obama amnesty for everyone in the country, including terrorists, criminals, and ebola patients. I have provided such a link.

Be my guest if you wish to dispute the use of the word pandemic by the link.

 

[InTheLight]

Various posters asked for a link to the GOP opinion that the failure to use a travel ban from West Africa is linked to the scheduled December 25 Obama amnesty for everyone in the country, including terrorists, criminals, and ebola patients. I have provided such a link.

No, I asked for proof of a linkage between the refusal of the Obama administration to block planes from Africa and the Mexican immigration policy. Not some nutcase's opinion.

From your article:
"It is logical deduction that Obama would have to abandon immigration reform amnesty promises to stop Ebola from infecting Americans."

That's it. That's your proof? A GOP operative's blog post. The guy can't make a distinction between a medical crisis requiring emergency measures and an ongoing policy of the US.

Look at what else this blogger says:

"Precedent with 2009 Mexican Flu
When the last pandemic flu strain emerged in Mexico, it should have been called Mexican flu because new strains are always named after their point of origin. But since that would harm the effort to force a merger of economies in North America thus destroying the border, Constitution, and sovereignty of America in the process it was renamed inappropriately as 'H1N1 Flu' or 'Swine flu'."

Your source has zero credibility.

 

[Revmitchell]

Your source has zero credibility.

Uh says you. Good luck with that. Attacking the source rather than dealing with the info in the op is an informal fallacy (adhominem). What you need to do instead of attacking the source is to find pertinent info that refutes what you do not like and post that in opposition to it. Bad mouthing the source and making and unsubstantiated claim that the source has no credibility does not prove the lack of credibility. It is just your personal "nutcase" opinion.

So until you come up with your own evidence that the post you badmouthed is in error your post is nothing more that one "nutcase" calling out another "nutcase".

 

[InTheLight]

Uh says you. Good luck with that. Attacking the source rather than dealing with the info in the op is an informal fallacy (adhominem). What you need to do instead of attacking the source is to find pertinent info that refutes what you do not like and post that in opposition to it. Bad mouthing the source and making and unsubstantiated claim that the source has no credibility does not prove the lack of credibility. It is just your personal "nutcase" opinion.

So until you come up with your own evidence that the post you badmouthed is in error your post is nothing more that one "nutcase" calling out another "nutcase".

The readers of this thread can decide for themselves.

 

[church mouse guy]

It is being said by....whom? Glen Beck? Rush?

Give us a link.

No, I asked for proof of a linkage between the refusal of the Obama administration to block planes from Africa and the Mexican immigration policy. Not some nutcase's opinion.

No, you asked for a link of where the idea is coming from. It is widespread in the GOP but I gave you an internet link to GOP thinking. Then you asked for proof that Obama was linking the admission of West Africans and the promised end of the year amnesty. Since actions speak louder than words, we will know December 25 when we have given amnesty to everyone in the country and there will still be no ban on travel from West Africa. Meanwhile Obama has only promised amnesty by the end of the year and has refused a travel ban from West Africa. One would think that people who are not afraid of ebola would fly to West Africa to help, especially wealthy ivy leaguers and people who believe in the Fatherhood of God, the Brotherhood of Man, and the Neighborhood of Martha's Vineyard.

 

[Revmitchell]

The readers of this thread can decide for themselves.

Well sure, let's put on a show for all the readers of this thread. Oooorrrrr.....you could post in a manner that is consistent with the so called integrity you seem to want to hold others too. That post falls flat.