Rubio seen as a moderate and an establishment candidate not a conservative

[poncho]

Yeah I know the lender is servant to the borrower.

The poor rules over the rich and all that jazz.

Yeah yeah yeah.

 

[InTheLight]

Have you read the declaration of independence lately?

If not you should.

Distract, deflect, distort. Got it.

 

[poncho]

Distract, deflect, distort. Got it.

If you don't like it stop doing it.

All the horses in this race are owned by the same small group of people with the possible exception of Trump.

I don't like it but that's how it is.

 

[InTheLight]

If you don't like it stop doing it.

Subject matter is Rubio and his conservative credentials. I don't see what my most recent reading of the Declaration of Independence has to do with the topic.

[edited to add: I see that you've rewritten your post about the Declaration of Independence to try to cover your tracks. Sneaky. Too bad I quoted you before you could change it!]

 

[poncho]

No it still stands. Go read it.

If you were around in those days you'd be calling everyone who signed it a conspiracy theorist.

Andrew Jackson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

Woodrow Wilson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

Eisenhower is probably a conspiracy theorist in your book.

JFK is probably a conspiracy theorist in your book.

You'd call the author of Proverbs 22:7 a conspiracy theorist.

Man your parents sure did a job on you dude.

 

[InTheLight]

No it still stands. Go read it.

If you were around in those days you'd be calling everyone who signed it a conspiracy theorist.

Andrew Jackson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

Woodrow Wilson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

You'd call the author of Proverbs 22:7 a conspiracy theorist.

Man your parents sure did a job on you dude.

Look, does Rubio have a conservative record? Why or why not? That is the topic of the thread.

 

[poncho]

Look, does Rubio have a conservative record? Why or why not? That is the topic of the thread.

Oh I was going by what the title of the thread says.

My mistake.

Look keep focusing on the trees just forget the forrest.

There is no forrest. Ok?

I thought you pretty much don't want to talk about anything I bring up?

What happened to that?

 

[InTheLight]

I thought you pretty much don't want to talk about anything I bring up?

What happened to that?

1. You didn't start this thread.
2. I slapped down your attempt to talk about global elitists and the Declaration of Independence when you brought them up.

Please pay attention.

 

[poncho]

1. You didn't start this thread.
2. I slapped down your attempt to talk about global elitists and the Declaration of Independence when you brought them up.

Please pay attention.

1. You didn't start this thread.
2. I slapped down your attempt to talk about global elitists and the Declaration of Independence when you brought them up.

Please pay attention.

1. Don't matter.

2. You didn't slap anybody down tough guy. Reality is going to slap you down because you pay attention to the the wrong things,

Look, you want to talk about what the TV talking heads want you to talk about and you hate it when I try to inject a little bit of reality.

Too bad so sad. Boo hoo.

Rubio's record doesn't mean squat. He's a neoconservative. Ok? There are no conservatives in this race.

We'll get the same with a Rubio administration that we'll get with Hillary administration.

The president is a figurehead. Their purpose is to put their name on the globalist's policies and take the fall when they turn out to be more of the samo samo more war, more debt, more government control and less freedom we've been getting since the the neocons co opted the republican party and started "advising" the democrat party.

The only choice is between liberty and slavery. It always has been the only choice.

Please pay attention to reality for a change and quit straining at the gnats the globalist's and their corporate media robots put in front of you. The banks and corporations run this country. It couldn't be any easier to spot if they put a giant billboard in your front lawn saying . . .

We're your owners. We own you. We give you the illusion of choice so you'll be quite and compliant like the good little debt serfs you are.

This thread that YOU started IS the distraction, it IS the deflection.

 

[poncho]

Sorry folks I said ITL started this thread when it was the Rev that started it.

Which brings up the question why ITL is so keen to shoo me out of it?

But at this point who cares. I'm starting another thread to explain why the national elections are like a rigged horse race and why we keep losing our shirts betting on the horses.

 

[Zaac]

Yeah, so? All politicians (except maybe Sanders) get donations from wealthy contributors. Frequently these people give to more than one candidate. Supposing these wealthy people's political views line up with your own? Then, what's the problem?

These are all guys attached to the establishment. Rubio is doing what past establishment candidates have done so he's being called the establishment candidate.

 

[InTheLight]

These are all guys attached to the establishment. Rubio is doing what past establishment candidates have done so he's being called the establishment candidate.

All right, give me an example of a non-establishment candidate and what they are doing differently than all other candidates. Don't use Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump.

 

[poncho]

Ron Paul. Telling the truth. honoring his oath of office and defending our liberty.

 

[Zaac]

All right, give me an example of a non-establishment candidate and what they are doing differently than all other candidates.

You got me.Biggrin It just seems like everybody likes labels in politics. I think he got thrown into the Establishment category because of his donors again, and there weren't any other labels left.

Don't use Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump.

Don't let Bernie Sanders fool ya. He likes to go after Clinton about her SuperPac, but he DOES get outside money from SuperPacs too.

Bernie Sanders frequently attacked Hillary Clinton during Thursday night’s MSNBC debate for taking money from Wall Street and using a super PAC, but he has avoided talking about the outside money helping his campaign.

“I am very proud to be the only candidate up here who does not have a super PAC,” Sanders said Thursday night, as he has many times before.


While there is no super PAC created solely to support Sanders’s campaign for president as there is for Clinton, several outside groups have spent large sums of money in favor of the Vermont senator. One of the most prominent is the super PAC of National Nurses United, the nation’s largest nurses union, which has endorsed Sanders.

The group often has volunteers at Sanders events and its super PAC has spent close to $1 million on ads and other support for the senator, the New York Times reported in January. In fact, the group had its biggest off-year fundraising effort ever last year. National Nurses United for Patient Protection brought in $2.3 million in 2015, Politico reported, and it gave significant funds to two other unlimited spending groups supporting Sanders.

Another group, Friends of Earth Action, has been airing ads for Sanders in Iowa and New Hampshire, CNN reported last month. Friends of Earth Action is a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization, which means it has no limit on the dollar amount supporters can give and is not required to disclose its donors, making it the type of group that Sanders frequently criticizes.

Overall, Sanders has raised plenty of money on his own without the outside groups. So far, he has raised $75 million, while Clinton has raised $115.6 million and her super PACs have raised $47.9 million, according to the New York Times money tracker.
http://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sande...spite-hitting-clinton-over-super-pacs-2294847

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[HankD]

I believe Rubio now has the nomination in the bag.

Trump and Cruz have harmed themselves greatly by their schoolboy donnybrooks.
Trump threw a tantrum publicly against Cruz harming his own persona.
What would he do if Putin tried to shellac him?
What about Cruz is he Canadian or American?
The SCOTUS will be forced to decide. How long will that take? Then what?

Rubio has a clean bill of heath in these issues.
Some polls say he can beat Mrs Clinton.

HankD

 

[kyredneck]

Trump may have already run away with things by the time my state of Ohio finally gets to vote.

That's usually the way it goes with KY, it's already been decided by the time the primary election occurs here.

 

[kyredneck]

They believe that if Rubio can strike a deal with the likes of Chuck Schumer

Schumer - same entity as Rubio's donors.

 

[kyredneck]

All the horses in this race are owned by the same small group of people with the possible exception of Trump.

That's about the way I see it.

 

[InTheLight]

No it still stands. Go read it.

If you were around in those days you'd be calling everyone who signed it a conspiracy theorist.

Andrew Jackson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

Woodrow Wilson would be a conspiracy theorist in your book.

Eisenhower is probably a conspiracy theorist in your book.

JFK is probably a conspiracy theorist in your book.

You'd call the author of Proverbs 22:7 a conspiracy theorist.

Man your parents sure did a job on you dude.

I would like to nominate this as "Post of the Year".

Notice the biggest spinner of conspiracy theories on Baptist Board says that I would consider mainstream politicians, i.e. "establishment politicians" as conspiracists. Then he attacks my ability to interpret the Bible, and finally takes an ad hominem shot at my parents.

 

[Zaac]

I would like to nominate this as "Post of the Year".

Notice the biggest spinner of conspiracy theories on Baptist Board says that I would consider mainstream politicians, i.e. "establishment politicians" as conspiracists. Then he attacks my ability to interpret the Bible, and finally takes an ad hominem shot at my parents.

Now ITL, you know that all that Alex Jones nonsense starts to affect folks after a while. Some folks don't care what the Bible says. Alex Jones is probably a distant cousin of Jim Jones.