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FRESNO Shooting: Was it or wasn't it, terrorism???

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Apr 19, 2017.

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  1. righteousdude2

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    The official statementsout of the sanctuary to be, state is that the shooter, who went down praising allah, did the killings out of HATE for white men, not terrorist ideals.Fresno shooting: Police chief says killings a hate crime - CNN.com

    Well that is there right, I guess, but I disagree. How about you! Do see this mass shooting as terror or racial discord/hate! Let's hear from you?!
     
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    Terrorism, by definition, has a political motivation. A desire to bring about a political or governmental change. I see this incident as not being terrorism. Yes, he did yell "Allah Akbar", but he killed out of spite and not for governmental change.
     
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    Definition of terrorism
    1. : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
    terrorist
    play\-ər-ist\ adjective or noun
    terroristic
    play\ˌter-ər-ˈis-tik\ adjective

    Definition of TERRORISM

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    [paste:font size="5"]terrorism (ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm
    noun
    1.
    systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal
    2.
    the act of terrorizing
    3.
    the state of being terrorized

    Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers


    Terrorism is the idea that violence is used to coerce behavior. It can be political in nature or it can be religious.

    I see this op as being about race rather than coercing behavior
     
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    Islam no longer wants governmental change ?
     
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    Hate crime at least.
     
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    The shouting of "allah akbar" signals a terrorist act no matter how you spin, slice or dice the information.

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    Why? If someone were to shout out "Jesus is Lord!" prior to killing someone would that be Christian terrorism?
     
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    Yes.

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    Hate crimes and terrorism as charges will always have folks who want to blur the edges. What it was was a triple homicide committed with malice of forethought and he should get the death penalty.
     
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