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A few Senate democrats break ranks with Schumer to avoid government shutdown...Not enough

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  1. carpro

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    Live Updates – Schumer Amnesty Shutdown: Washington on Edge as Cliff Approaches - Breitbart


    Washington, D.C., is on edge this Friday as Senate Democrats barrel the United States of America toward a government shutdown at midnight.
    The House of Representatives, on a bipartisan basis, passed a bill that keeps the government open with 230 votes–and now its fate rests in the hands of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and his Senate Democratic conference, who would be solely responsible for a government shutdown if it happens. The Senate overwhelmingly on Thursday evening voted for a motion to proceed onto the bill, but now the funding measure needs 60 Senators to vote for it to eventually pass. Since only 47 Republicans are definitely yea votes, that means Republicans need at least 13 Senate Democrats to vote to fund the government.



    Now that three Senate Democrats–Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Joe Donnelly (D-IN)–are on board with the bipartisan House-passed plan to keep the government open, pressure is ramping up nationwide on obstructionist Democrats party-wide.

    (Lyndsey Graham is voting with democrats to shut down the government.)
     
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    Graham, why do South Carolinians keep voting him back to office? IMO, the guy's a nut, or bipolar, or sumthin.
     
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    Good question.

    Why doesn't McConnell just abolish the rule that sixty votes are needed to pass something in the US Senate and institute majority rule? Government spending and debt are way out of control and both parties have closed their eyes to the decades of red ink. Does anyone believe that the federal debt is worth the paper it is written on?
     
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    A two edged sword that would cut both ways, I'd rather have the rule.
     
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    March 5 is deadline to be concerned about, tweets Dr. Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention's ERLC:

    Russell Moore on Twitter

    [​IMG] Russell Moore Verified @drmoore
    After March 5—1,400 people will lose their jobs and be vulnerable to deportation every single day. Congress has the power to make sure this doesn't happen. It is totally unacceptable for them not to find a solution in time.
     
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    This is a question I have been wondering about for the past couple of cycles; I'm doing my part to kick him out!:mad:
    May be wrong, but I look for the next time he's up, he'll be trounced. Hopefully anyway!!!:D
     
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    Oh, majority rule would be best for the republic. We are shut down because the Democrats will never make a deal. They want to delay the American people until November in the hopes that somehow they can regain seats and really gridlock the American people. The Democrats have no agenda except to deny the will of the majority and they are willing to use this self-made rule of the Senate. These Senate seats are now national. For example, this Joe Donnelly of Indiana, who is no good, is getting all kinds of money from Hollywood and Silicon Valley to fund his campaign in Indiana, where he is getting almost no money. The pushing aside of the majority rule allows people like Donnelly to be important. It costs the Democrats nothing for him to vote with the GOP so it was pure grandstanding on his part for November. If his vote had been needed, he would have voted Democrat. He is no good.
     
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    Good info CMG, thanks.
     
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    We should trade mccain and Graham for those first 2 Democrats mentioned here, as both of them tend to side with president more often than those 2 Rhinos do!
     
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    Russell Moore is a political hack, & one of the main reasons I left a SBC church. His tweet reaffirms to me that I made the right choice.
     
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    We need rid of murkosky & collins too, can we barter them off? Heh.
     
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    The S.C. system is rigged to protect incumbents in the primary. There is a huge movement to amend the State Constitution to require a primary win of 50% plus one vote instead of the current system of no run off, largest vote getter take all.
     
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    He has 14 years in the US Senate - which means he has seniority and can bring the bacon home
    His seniority is 24 out of 100 ( and 13 out of 51 Republicans)
     
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    Were you a member of his church?
     
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    What makes him a political hack?
     
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    His political statements. The wag the dog results of the last convention. The direction to the left that he provides in his position of leadership. Condemn the ‘alt right’? That’s a pretty sweeping stand. Why not condemn all democrats as their platform is pro choice?! If the SBC will go along with leftist rhetoric, that says to me they are on the wrong path, & I will not support it. They should be in the business of unifying people in the ways of Christ alone. If they step into the politcal divide, then they have lost their way like many other denominations have already done. It saddens me greatly.
     
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    I don't agree with a lot of what he says, however calling him a hack and leaving a church he is not directly involved in is a rather extreme move. He doesn't represent everyone in the SBC. The average member doesn't even know who he is.
     
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    He doesn’t represent everyone? Um, yes he does, because of his position. That’s like saying Trump doesn’t represent the United States because he doesn’t represent what every citizen wants. I’m sorry if you find my position extreme. I felt it better to leave than remain & possibly be divisive, because as you say, most probably don’t know the direction of the SBC under such leadership......but maybe they should.
     
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    The 5 Republicans who voted with the democrats to shut down the governemnt:

    Sen. Jeff Flake, Trump hating RINO
    Sen. Mitch McConnell, Republican (for procedural reasons)
    Sen. Rand Paul, Republican
    Sen. Lyndsey Graham, RINO
    Sen. Mike Lee, Republican

    Most likely John McCain would have voted with the dems if he had been there.
     
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    What was the purpose of "procedural reasons"?
     
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