National Guard helped border agents arrest 1,600 ADDITIONAL illegals...

[Calminian]

Well, it's obvious that you either cannot read or you trying are to provoke me - and on a Christian site!!!...

Notice he starts with an insult then indirectly attacks my Christianity.

 

[TheResister]

I only see one troll. He tried to say protecting the border is globalism and open borders is nationalism. No need to read much further after that.

If you aimed that at me, [Name calling edited] and you don't know the meaning of the word troll. So, are you too hiding behind the white supremacists that created the talking points being used against me?

 

[TheResister]

Notice he starts with an insult then indirectly attacks my Christianity.

After what you said to me, no one need judge you. Seems to me that I responded only to the insults hurled my way. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. I can do it better than you can. I've been insulted by the people that taught you for a few decades now.

 

[HankD]

The site you quote is financed by John Tanton. Tanton is a millionaire eugenics activist and provided David Duke with his talking points. It is hardly a non-partisan site.

I'll do more on my rant ...

With millions of kids being fed dangerous drugs, our society feels the sting. For example: Virtually every mass shooting in the United States, is committed by a political jihadist OR, more likely, by a young white male that has been on a schedule of drugs called SSRIs. All they have to do is come up with the magical words or phrases like I feel anxious, depressed, or thinking about hurting or killing myself. Presto - A prescription of SSRIs appear... no counseling or non - drug therapy required.

Then the American people demand National ID (even worse than what Orwell contemplated in his novel 1984.) The anti-immigrant lobby endorsed the National ID / REAL ID Act on the pretext of identifying so - called "illegal aliens." In fact it is used to keep a certain demographic of Americans out of the job market. We don't give second chances and we make the mistakes of Americans an open book by which to be judged - they are judged on their past, not the current time. This opens the doors for even more foreigners to move in and take the jobs that Americans could have had.

Immigration laws won't stop that reality. Some Americans are locked out of the job market... permanently.

Do I hear a song in the background?

Cry me a River, Cry me a River (Rio Grande?)

 

[Bro. Curtis]

If a person makes a pile of dung out of the precious gift of their life, it’s on them.

 

[HankD]

If you aimed that at me, [Name calling edited] and you don't know the meaning of the word troll. So, are you too hiding behind the white supremacists that created the talking points being used against me?

Hey wait, I'm part Jewish and that disqualifies me as a white supremacist so I guess you don't include me along with Calminian.

 

[Calminian]

If you aimed that at me, [Name calling edited] and you don't know the meaning of the word troll. So, are you too hiding behind the white supremacists that created the talking points being used against me?

You say, Trump is setting the stage for a new world order by putting troops on the border. I called you out. You called me a white supremacist. Okay, yeah, I'm done.

 

[friedfriar]

Some were poo-pooing this move.

National Guard helped border agents arrest 1,600 ADDITIONAL illegals...

Border deployment leads to arrest of 1,600 more illegal immigrants
by Anna Giaritelli
May 09, 2018 10:45 AM

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers have apprehended an additional 1,600 people attempting to illegally enter the country from Mexico since April 15 as a result of the deployment of National Guard troops to the southwest border, CBP and defense officials said Wednesday.

National Guard officials overseeing the border state deployments said troops helping monitor the international boundary have freed up more border agents to physically guard the border. The result has led to a surge in the amount of criminal activity agents have stopped.

[Related: Illegal immigrant apprehensions at US-Mexico border hit highest levels since Trump took office]

The increased surveillance and communication between guardsmen and border officers also led to CBP intercepting an additional 451 people who were turned back before illegally entering the U.S.

Those numbers could tick up considerably if the 4,000 National Guard troops President Trump approved on April 4 are called on in a future request from CBP.

As of Wednesday, 775 troops have been deployed and are on the ground providing "direct support on the ground" in seven sectors assisting law enforcement officers.

Troops are providing support from the air, surveillance back-up, and assistance with infrastructure projects like vegetation clearing and road maintenance, not including to the border wall construction. Another task is to specifically free up agents to leave their desks and get back out to the field. The troops monitoring remote video surveillance systems have then been able to report sightings to a greater field of agents and thus, the number of apprehensions has increased, officials said.

"Those folks are giving us the additional situational awareness in the radio rooms ... which are allowing the Border Patrol agents sitting in those areas to go into the field," said one National Guard official, who described the addition of the Guard as a "force-multiplier" for the CBP.

"As a reminder, these guardsmen are not carrying out law enforcement duties," an official representing the Texas National Guard said.

Guardsmen have been deployed to the following Border Patrol sectors: 200 to the Rio Grande Valley, 120 to Laredo, 90 to Del Rio, 70 to Big Bend, 110 to El Paso, 135 to Tuscon, and 50 to Yuma.

In late April, the California National Guard said 200 guardsmen were in training at Camp Roberts and would be deployed in early May. Around 55 troops are already working in those sectors.

The deployment is funded through the end of fiscal year 2018, September 30. Ronald Vitiello, CBP deputy commissioner, said in April the intent of the mission is for CBP to regain operational control of the border.​

This is no different then when Obama sent troops to the border. Where was all the outrage the?

obama sent troops to the border - Google Search

 

[friedfriar]

I realize that we have been programmed, Pavlovian style, to react to that buzz term "illegal alien," but there is more to the story that your average layman doesn't get.

For example, using the military to enforce domestic law is a REALLY bad idea. Unfortunately, it will not be until you are on the receiving end of the equation that you will appreciate the sentiment.

The military is not enforcing domestic law in this case. Besides the National Guard are used to quell riots, they are the states force to do so with.

 

[friedfriar]

While I was in the military no one considered the national guard as US military.

There is/was a moniker the Air force gave the Air National Guardsman which I can't repeat on the BB.

A legal technicality but the reason they are called the "State Militia" is/was for the very reason I stated.

Our own Constitution allows for the calling up, providing for, organizing and governing the Militia.

Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.


Clause 16. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.

 

[friedfriar]

I was the Commanding Officer in a state militia for over 10 years (and a member for over 25 years.) The National Guard bills itself as the "state militia," however they are not. They draw their paychecks from the federal government and are under federal control.

We are leaving ourselves with no way to resist an over-sized government as it is. THAT is the primary danger.

Why The National Guard Is Not A Militia

According to the Constitution you would be in violation of it under Clause 15 and 16 via insurrection. Private militias are not state militias and are unlawful in the US. Each State has its own militia, the National Guard , to include what some states call State Defense Forces under their own states Department of Defense serving in support of the national and state constitutions under direction of the governor and the adjutant general of the individual state.

 

[friedfriar]

Coming into this country without papers is a civil misdemeanor. At best, the government spends 10 grand (the cost to capture, process and deport an undocumented foreigner) to get a maximum $250 fine.

The left can (and eventually WILL) argue in court that breaking up families and deporting people with American relatives is clearly a violation of the guarantee found in the Eighth Amendment. Even you should understand, whether you agree or not publicly that breaking up families over a misdemeanor don't make much sense. AND if that goes to court anytime soon, the United States Supreme Court consists of six Catholics and three Jews (Gorsuch was raised a Roman Catholic though says he is a Protestant.)

At least five of the Justices lean left, with Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer definitely not agreeing with the current anti-immigrant solutions. Then you have a black man, the son of immigrants, and a sell-out (Roberts) that are iffy votes. I told you this issue is a LONG one to articulate. The one thing that you can be assured of: the anti-immigrant lobby is filled with neo nazis proposing National Socialist solutions... if you consider regression a solution. They cannot afford for an alternative solution to be put on the table, and there is little difference between National Socialists, Socialists, and Communists.

If the left were able to do so, why have they not done it as yet? Surely they have had ample opportunity to do just that over all these years. Deporting people that have no right to be here is not a violation of the 8th Amendment, nor would it ever be found to be unconstitutional to deport a person, the family has the opportunity to go with them, at their expense of course.

 

[TheResister]

If a person makes a pile of dung out of the precious gift of their life, it’s on them.

[Insult edited]

When the government wages wars against families and allows for wholesale divorce and then puts grade school children on drugs and follows up through their teens - IT ISN'T ALWAYS THE FAULT OF THE CHILD.

 

[friedfriar]

I don't want you to feel guilty. You simply need to know that just because someone does not agree with the solutions that are on a table does not mean they are oblivious to a problem.

Sometimes you have to look at the long term. Thomas Paine, one of our founding fathers said:

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself"

I have found that not one person in a thousand can understand the meaning of those words. And yet the anti-immigrant lobby has put mechanisms into place that have cost us TRILLIONS of dollars in taxes; it has jeopardized our Liberties - even eviscerating some of our Rights; and worst of all, the most likely person to have been victimized by the current anti-immigrant agenda has been individual American citizens.

What liberties have been jeopardized? What rights have been eviscerated?

 

[TheResister]

You say, Trump is setting the stage for a new world order by putting troops on the border. I called you out. You called me a white supremacist. Okay, yeah, I'm done.

[Name calling edited] as I've not called anyone here anything until this posting. When the possibility of misunderstanding arose, I have said IF you believe or meant to say...

 

[TheResister]

Hey wait, I'm part Jewish and that disqualifies me as a white supremacist so I guess you don't include me along with Calminian.

I just argued that point with black supremacists. They told me Jews and whites were the same. Want me to PM you the link?

 

[TheResister]

This is no different then when Obama sent troops to the border. Where was all the outrage the?

obama sent troops to the border - Google Search

Believe me, I complained. I just wasn't registered on this board. The community organizer screwed this country royally.

 

[TheResister]

The military is not enforcing domestic law in this case. Besides the National Guard are used to quell riots, they are the states force to do so with.

As a matter of FACT, they are enforcing domestic law.

 

[friedfriar]

Believe me, I complained. I just wasn't registered on this board. The community organizer screwed this country royally.

Did you complain when Bush sent troops to the border, too?

bush sends troops to the border - Google Search

 

[friedfriar]

As a matter of FACT, they are enforcing domestic law.

The National Guard is not enforcing domestic law while being on the border. The troops are in a support role, they are not enforcing anything. They are operating surveillance systems, analyzing intelligence, installing fences and vehicle barriers, building patrol roads, and providing training. They do not have the legal authorization to capture or detain illegals.