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The Bible war.

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37818

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And why is it important that the KJV text follows the F35 reading? The KJV translators didn't have F35 in 1604-1611 while the KJV translation was being done. And F35 dates to around 1100 AD. Shouldn't that 1000 year gap cause us concern?
The KJV translators didn't have the NA or UBS either.
 

37818

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Would they have consulted them if they did?
So you have no answer to my question?
And why is it important that the KJV text follows the F35 reading? The KJV translators didn't have F35 in 1604-1611 while the KJV translation was being done. And F35 dates to around 1100 AD. Shouldn't that 1000 year gap cause us concern?
We might have had a different KJV.
The intent was always, I think, to give the readers a faithful translation of God's word. Note that the KJV translators showed in italics words, when words or interpretation of the translator was added to the text. Most modern versions do not do this. And likely would be in foot notes too. Notes which in later edition of the KJV have dropped. Our modern translations do have foot notes. The lack of applying statistical methods, which the KJV translators didn't have should be of concern regarding the gap in time and the changes now being imposed, ignoring both the gap in time and statisical methods being or not being considered.
 

TCassidy

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Another canned response that makes absolutely no sense and has nothing to do with family35.
 

Yeshua1

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We might have had a different KJV.
The intent was always, I think, to give the readers a faithful translation of God's word. Note that the KJV translators showed in italics words, when words or interpretation of the translator was added to the text. Most modern versions do not do this. And likely would be in foot notes too. Notes which in later edition of the KJV have dropped. Our modern translations do have foot notes. The lack of applying statistical methods, which the KJV translators didn't have should be of concern regarding the gap in time and the changes now being imposed, ignoring both the gap in time and statisical methods being or not being considered.
The Nas has italized the added words though!
 

37818

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How so? was translated in 1977, and revised 1995!
Both editions use the italics to show words added by the translator. And the 1995 edition has more notes where the translation itself is less literal with the more literal translation or alternate translation is in the margin. Romans 10:10 for example.
 

Yeshua1

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Both editions use the italics to show words added by the translator. And the 1995 edition has more notes where the translation itself is less literal with the more literal translation or alternate translation is in the margin. Romans 10:10 for example.
And you approve of their decision to do this, correct?
 

37818

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And you approve of their decision to do this, correct?
The use of italic text to show added words provided, not being part of the actual translation, yes. To let the reader know that.
For example the KJV translator of Mark 14:12 as compared to the KJV translator of Matthew 26:17. The translator of Mark does not show any words added, ". . . And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?" Whereas the translator of Matthew addes the words "day" and "feast of," ". . . Now the first [day] of the [feast of] unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?" Now it should be noted that the first day of unleavened bread is the 14th of Passover and the first day of the feast unleavened bread of the Passover is the 15th. Not the same day.
 
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robycop3

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My answer to that would be, so what? To the KJVO, it is supported by both. It's like the kid down the street saying, "My Dad could beat up your Dad!" Would you feel the need to go and disprove that kid? That's his opinion and perspective of his Dad.

If I drive a Ford and you drive a Chevy, and I think all Chevys are inferior to Fords, so what; that's my opinion based on my experience with Fords. You may disagree, and that's fine. It shouldn't be an issue. I don't know any KJVO authors that go outside of their camp to make it an issue.


I've heard this claim all my life. I have been in IFB churches for the past 42 years since being saved. I served on staff at 3 different IFB churches and pastored a church for several years. At no time was there any division in any of the churches because of the Bible version issue.

I've never once confronted a modern version proponent about using their version of choice. I have, however, been confronted by people, not from our church, who have seen our SOF on a website and have called to argue about it.

With all due respect, I've read the KJV & at least eleven other English Bible translations cover-to-cover & never seen the first word supporting the KJVO myth.

Why does it affect me? As a Christian, I'm to fight any & all false doctrines of faith/worship, & the KJVO myth is as false as they get.
 

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With all due respect, I've read the KJV & at least eleven other English Bible translations cover-to-cover & never seen the first word supporting the KJVO myth.

Why does it affect me? As a Christian, I'm to fight any & all false doctrines of faith/worship, & the KJVO myth is as false as they get.
Pastor BOB might think that this is making a mountain out of a molehill, but the KJVO fans have caused division among the ranks, and have caused some to doubt if their version is even to be trusted or approved by God!
 

37818

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Pastor BOB might think that this is making a mountain out of a molehill, but the KJVO fans have caused division among the ranks, and have caused some to doubt if their version is even to be trusted or approved by God!
The division started with the so called critical texts.
 
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