Why some people hate the police.

[Salty]

SAorry for responding in reverse order, but I think it makes more sense.

The purpose of prison is not punishment, it is to protect society from harm by "anti-social" individuals.

I would not disagree - thus prison has a dual purpose.

Part of the punishment is being confined, not have access to
certain nice things, ect.
For example, we should not feed prisoners only bread and water,
but on the other hand there is no need to provide them with T-Bone Steak

 

[timtofly]

Just thinking about something - do we need to rehab prisoners who are serving a life term?

Yes and no.

Shorten the life term to the death penalty. 1 month of godly counseling, and then death.

To make more space we need to shorten rehabilitation. The problem is half the people on the outside waiting to get back in, have been rehabilitated at least once, if not more.

The justice system is too large. Both sides of the issue see each other as the enemy. But what we would do without all those jobs? We could militarize them to actually stop the flow of drugs. If we could only stop the desire of sin for a month....

The issue is not with police being bullies. It is with sin turning all into bullies. Those who make billions in trafficking sin do not care either way.

God knows that the only way to stop sin, is to just stop working. Sin is what we reward ourselves with all the work we do. It started with Noah and the first vineyard. After 100 years of nonstop labor, he made the mistake of rewarding himself with sin. The habit has not stopped since. If we all stopped working and just gave stuff away, the owners of the money, would start firing people. But if everyone in the whole world stopped, even the law enforcement, and rioters would stop their non paying job of rioting, and people would truly respect each other for each other instead of their jobs, this world would change in a hurry.

But those in high places are smart. They know people will never just strike at once and actually respect each other at the same time. Their bet is placed on sin and it's strong desire in our hearts.

 

[Adonia]

Isn't there a fella in California that's doing life in prison for stealing donuts?

He probably was a three time loser. California has a "Three Strikes" law. I'd like to know what his two other felonies were.

 

[MartyF]

As the OP for this thread, I ask that this tread be closed since it has been hijacked. It was concerning why some people hate the police - not how to punish criminals.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

As the OP for this thread, I ask that this tread be closed since it has been hijacked. It was concerning why some people hate the police - not how to punish criminals.

Without even addressing these?

I'm glad he became a Christian in prison and was able to overcome his inherited criminal past. On the one hand, it's too bad he wasn't in a place to be "Scared Straight" in his youth. On the other, his experiences qualify him to express a perspective few know firsthand, though they follow closely the Hollywood stereotype where criminals are essentially glorified. Certainly, his version is interesting and does have some valid points, they just aren't the whole story, not by a long shot.

His best point is that the criminal element have it much rougher in prison, where certain subcultures naturally exist, including among prison guards, but especially among prisoners. He said it himself: To the inmates, the worst sort of prisoner—worse than paedophiles—is one who tells the warden the truth about the evils another prisoner commits. Had he taken the route of a snitch, he might not be alive today. He made it clear that such were given a death sentence, if found out. In other words, he deliberately perpetuated the subculture of the imprisoned criminal element to avoid ending up dead.

Guess what, people do the same outside of prison, perpetuating crime in their communities.

There is an entirely different perspective in the very same types of neighborhoods he experienced young. While BLM & their ilk champion the cases of thugs who are mistreated by police, or not, others clamor for police protection from those very same thugs mistreating them. The idea that the black community has a single harmonious view of the situation is a lie. Those who emphasize isolated cases where police seem to be singling them out for scrutiny are conveniently forgetting the extensive criminal element in their midst who are even murdering, often indiscriminately, often "their own."

A huge part of the solution is for the black community to wake up from their stupor and realize that they are being played by the criminal element and politicians (pardon the redundancy) into adopting precisely the type of prejudice they claim to deplore and which prevents progress. All police are not guilty of the sins of a few, and those guilty are not driven by racism. That narrative is a nonstarter and will only divide honest people, because some will unwittingly allow themselves to be played by the criminal element, especially those that are politicians.

 

[JonC]

Thread is closed at the request of the OP.