A Complaint About A Lack of Logic

I have been reading comments in the thread about Pelaganists, whatever that is, and in the attempt to define terms and justify positions and some false doctrines like total depravity and other doctrines, Adam is very much maligned and misrepresented. For instance there are people on this forum that disagree on what changed about Adam when he sinned. The texts tells us clearly and plainly what was different about him and other parts of scripture gives additional information.

Here is what the text says changed about him.

1) He died
2) His eyes were opened that he could know good and evil

Ge 3:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ge 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

This is all that we know that changed. It seems that Adam knew more, not less, as Calvinism teaches.

Here is the logic. If this is the source of the problem between God and man and Jesus Christ is the fix, can we not look at what Jesus Christ our Lord did and have a good idea about everything in between.

First of all, the death, burial, and resurrection of the second man and the last Adam, Jesus Christ, made living possible where men were dead.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Logic: these people who God wants to give eternal life through Jesus Christ are not in the graveyard covered with dirt. They are people who are walking around, having families, and living life. However, they must be dead in some way or why would anyone want to make a live person alive if he is already alive?

Any chance they would be dead in the same way Adam was dead in the day he sinned but before he was put in a grave 930 years later? Is the life that God wants to give as a gift different than the life Adam possessed before he died in the day he sinned? Here is what God said about Adam when he created him.

Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Here is what we are told in Job;

Job 33:4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Here is the fix after the resurrection;

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

Adam before the fall was in the image of God (trinity) Born in Adam we are in the image of Adam (body and soul) after the fall. Born of God, we are in the image of Jesus Christ (trinity soul body Spirit) who is the image of God (Father Son Holy Ghost).

All beings who have the Spirit are sons of God. Adam was the son of God before the fall.See Lk 3:38.He is the only man who was, until Jesus Christ was born. God gave the Spirit to him without measure and from his conception.

This is logical as well as true. All this election stuff and total depravity and only certain people are chosen of God to be saved is giant red wheels and is confusion. It is tragic!

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

2 Cor 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Gen 5:1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

This is simple if you think about it.

 

Yeah, None!

One important thing that changed that I left out. Adam lost his home in the paradise of God where the Tree of Life is. But, I read the last chapter and that too has been restored.