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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Barry Johnson, Oct 14, 2020.

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  1. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    Verse.
     
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    he does not!
     
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    can you explain without a video clip?
     
  4. George Antonios

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    Prove that with scriptures.
     
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    is he KJVO?
     
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    moot argument!
     
  7. George Antonios

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    So you can't. Noted.
     
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    O know am saved right now, due to be sealed by the Holy Spirit!
     
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    can you prove from Scripture, that we ONLY have 66 Books in the Holy Bible, as approved by God? Can you prove from Scripture, that the Roman Catholic bible with the Apocrypha, is not to be accepted?
     
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    Jesus also stated that he is the Shepherd over both Jews and Gentiles flock! Both in the Church of Christ!
     
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    we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption, as in glorification of this body, so how is it cannot be sure yet?
     
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    I don't deny that. I'm saying you can't know that 100% based on the Calvinist system, because in that system you only find out that you're assuredly one of the elect after dying after a lifetime of persevering. So your works are practically your assurance.
     
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    Repent from our own efforts and food works to get saved!
     
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    Well of course. But the body is Gentile, like Rebekah, Asenath, Zipporah, Rahab, Ruth, and the daughter of Pharaoh - all Gentile women married to a Jewish royal seed.
     
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    from SIN!
     
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    Again, it depends on the dispensational context.
     
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    This makes no sense.
    God has always saved both Jew and Gentile (as a body) from Adam and Eve onward to the day of the Lord.
    What I don't see in scripture is a "Church Age" as you have suggested. I wonder where that is suggested in the Bible as it seems to be a dispensational philosophy.
     
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    Sure.

    Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

    Christ establishes the 3 divisions of the Hebrew Bible as canon and the Apocrypha isn't in either of those 3.
    As for the 66 books, they are all quoted in the New Testament except Esther and Obadiah I think, don't quote me exactly but that's what I recall from my own study a while back. Then again, most of those books were joined together, so Obadiah for example was part of the book of prophets, so it's confirmed that way.
     
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    was there a Gospel preached before salvation was actually accomplished?
     
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    as a pastor, do you always answer people from your church like this?
     
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